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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:01 pm

Are the 1960 treatiesstill valid?
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Postby BirKibrisli » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:19 pm

I am pretty sure it is,Gavcar.It could not be changed legally without the agreement of the TC Vicepresident,as far as I know...
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Postby DT. » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:27 pm

They are still valid. As an example there is the agreed percentage of TC MP seats in the house of parliament empty.
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:51 pm

DT wrote:They are still valid. As an example there is the agreed percentage of TC MP seats in the house of parliament empty.


But how it can be elected?
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Postby Piratis » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:28 pm

GAVCARoCOM wrote:
DT wrote:They are still valid. As an example there is the agreed percentage of TC MP seats in the house of parliament empty.


But how it can be elected?


With the end of the illegal occupation of Cyprus by Turkey.
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Thu Mar 15, 2007 7:18 pm

I mean how they can choose the papadopulus as a leader for all Cyprus without a TC leader there ?
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Postby askimwos » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:14 pm

The TCs according to the 1960 constitution did not vote for the president, they instead voted for the vice-president which had to be a TC. After the 1963 withdrawal of the TCs from the government the supreme court decided to apply a special law that allowed the government to operate without the presence of TC cabinet members - this is called "to dikaio tis anangkis", I am not sure how this can be translated in english. It is kind of an emergency law which states that until the TCs decide to get back to the government the government can work without their presence, effectively temporarily bypassing those clauses in the constitution that require the TC votes on a bill or white paper to be adopted. If this new law was not adopted the government wouldn't be able to take any decision.

TCs need to also know that th 13 points amendments proposed by Makarios was not something that fell from the sky at the time. The RoC before the call for the 13 points amendments went for more than a year without being able to collect taxes because the TC vice-president objected and vetoed the taxation policy. As a result taxes for some time were only collected from the GCs.
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:17 pm

askimwos wrote:The TCs according to the 1960 constitution did not vote for the president, they instead voted for the vice-president which had to be a TC. After the 1963 withdrawal of the TCs from the government the supreme court decided to apply a special law that would allow the government to operate without the presence of TC cabinet members - this is called "to dikaio tis anangkis", I am not sure how this can be translated in english. It is kind of an emergency law which states that until the TCs decide to get back to the government the government can work without their presence, effectively temporarily bypassing those clauses in the constitution that require the TC votes on a bill or white paper to be adopted. If this new law was not adopted the government wouldn't be able to take any decision.


Do you think this is Fair ?
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Postby askimwos » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:19 pm

Which bit? TCs voting just for the vice-president and not for the president or the emergency law that was adopted after the withdrawal of TCs from the government?
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Thu Mar 15, 2007 10:20 pm

That they can carryon to rule the RoC from 1963 even no TCs in the parliment?

This is sounds like you are having marriage with someone and when your Wife left then you carryon to claim the full benefits of your wife as well and use them only for your family and give you wife only the food money between 1963-74
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