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rights for Kurds, same as ‘what Turkey asks for TCs

Postby pitsilos » Mon Dec 11, 2006 12:54 pm

Elçi asks for rights for Kurds, same as ‘what Turkey asks for Turkish Cypriots’
Monday, December 11, 2006


The Free Kurds Group will next week submit their petition to the Interior Ministry to form a political party

DİYARBAKIR - Turkish Daily News


Bringing to mind that Ankara has insisted on having a bi-communal state on the divided island of Cyprus saying that Turkish and Greek Cypriots on the island should live in a bi-zonal state, senior ethnic Kurdish politician Şerafettin Elçi argued that Turkey should grant the same rights -- which it sought for Turkish Cypriots -- to the Kurdish people living in Turkey.

Elçi is known for his stance favoring federalism as the optimal administrative system for multiethnic countries like Turkey and as a resolution to the Kurdish issue. In July, Elçi and his Free Kurds Group announced that they were getting prepared to form a new pro-Kurdish political party.

The Free Kurds Group held the last of a serial of regional gatherings in Diyarbakır over the weekend. The group is prepared to submit a petition to the Interior Ministry next week in order to officially form a political party.

Around 1,500 people attended the gathering in Diyarbakır with some of them singing songs in Kurdish and reading poems in Kurdish.

Elçi started his speech in Kurdish and later continued in Turkish.

“What we want is extremely clear: The resolution formula for the Kurdish problem is a federative system,” Elçi said, noting that Kurds are the most crowded nation on the world which still doesn't have a state of its own.

“If we explain our rightful cause properly, then we can gain our rights and this can only happen with qualified persons taking responsibility. That's why we want to establish a political party,” he said.

“We want the rights which Turkey wants for Turkish Cypriots to be granted to the Kurds living in Turkey as well,” he added.

Elçi, who served in the pre-1980 Bülent Ecevit government as public works minister, faced prosecution after the 1980 coup because of his political statements and served a 30-month prison sentence. In the 1970s he caused a huge uproar when he said, “I have Kurdish origins” -- the first ever member of a Turkish Parliament who openly declared his Kurdish origin -- and for speaking in Kurdish to constituents from Diyarbakır who did not know Turkish.

In 1997, Elçi established the Democratic Mass Party (DKP), which was closed down by the Constitutional Court on grounds that the party program included separatist elements.

http://www.turkishdailynews.com.tr/arti ... wsid=61427




hmmmm...maybe we should exchange links and offer some guidance to these short changed people
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Postby cypezokyli » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:30 pm

surprised that this is in TDN !!!! :shock:
such things are found usually only in gc press!!
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Postby pitsilos » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:34 pm

it took a while but eventually it got there :wink:
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Postby alexISS » Mon Dec 11, 2006 1:54 pm

The "mountain Turks" (there are no Kurds, remember?) should forget about human rights if Turkey does not enter the EU
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:39 pm

Turks in the Thrace = Kurds in Turkey
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Postby alexISS » Mon Dec 11, 2006 2:55 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Turks in the Thrace = Kurds in Turkey


Ha ha, no way! Absolutely no way! Go ask them if you don't believe me!
Actually the Turks of Greece are much richer, better educated and with more rights than the Turks of Turkey!
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:01 pm

alexISS wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:Turks in the Thrace = Kurds in Turkey


Ha ha, no way! Absolutely no way! Go ask them if you don't believe me!
Actually the Turks of Greece are much richer, better educated and with more rights than the Turks of Turkey!


How long did it take them to get there? some even argue they are discrminiated against in 2006 so the Kurds can expect to be treated the same as the Turks in Thrace over time. :wink:
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Postby alexISS » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:08 pm

Viewpoint wrote:How long did it take them to get there? some even argue they are discrminiated against in 2006 so the Kurds can expect to be treated the same as the Turks in Thrace over time. :wink:


How long did it take them? I do not consider this to be a serious question, so I will reply in an analogue tone. Since the Thrace Turk have only been there for four centuries, they did it quite fast, considering that the Kurds have been living in Anatolia before the Turks came and they are still living under third world conditions. Anyway, you accepted that Thrace Turks are nothing like Turkey Kurds right now, that's enough for me

And in case you didn't notice, I didn't even compare Thrace Turks to Turkey Kurds, I compared them to Turkey Turks
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:34 pm

alexISS wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:How long did it take them to get there? some even argue they are discrminiated against in 2006 so the Kurds can expect to be treated the same as the Turks in Thrace over time. :wink:


How long did it take them? I do not consider this to be a serious question, so I will reply in an analogue tone. Since the Thrace Turk have only been there for four centuries, they did it quite fast, considering that the Kurds have been living in Anatolia before the Turks came and they are still living under third world conditions. Anyway, you accepted that Thrace Turks are nothing like Turkey Kurds right now, that's enough for me

And in case you didn't notice, I didn't even compare Thrace Turks to Turkey Kurds, I compared them to Turkey Turks


All a matter of evolution the Kurds along with Turkey they too will develop and prosper if they contribute positively towards transforming Turkey into a more stable country where all its citizens are treated fairly and as equals and benefit from its economical progress.
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Postby alexISS » Mon Dec 11, 2006 3:44 pm

Viewpoint wrote:All a matter of evolution the Kurds along with Turkey they too will develop and prosper if they contribute positively towards transforming Turkey into a more stable country where all its citizens are treated fairly and as equals and benefit from its economical progress.


They could offer much more if their own existence was aknowledged first. Anyway, your last post could be a post of a Greek Cypriot, if you replaced the word "Kurds" with "TCs" and "Turkey" with "Cyprus"
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