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Which Is The Real Church Of Agia Zoni, Occupied Famagusta?

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Which Is The real Agia Zoni Church ???

No. 1 The Picture Postcard One
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No. 2 The Fenced-Off CY Mail One
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Which Is The Real Church Of Agia Zoni, Occupied Famagusta?

Postby bill cobbett » Mon Mar 14, 2011 12:30 am

Pictures are so powerful ...

So which is the Real Church of Agia Zoni?

Is it No. 1 , this one ? The nice, picture-postcard Agia Zoni...

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Or is it No. 2, this church behind barbed-wire and fence with a campanile as featured at the top of a CY Mail article today...


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Neither!!

Postby cymart » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:08 pm

The second photo from C.M. is of Ayia Ekaterini church which is also on the perimeter of the fenced area but further north towards the old city and area which is inhabited.Ayia Zoni is a few hundred yards further down the same road...
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Re: Neither!!

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Mar 16, 2011 4:47 pm

cymart wrote:The second photo from C.M. is of Ayia Ekaterini church which is also on the perimeter of the fenced area but further north towards the old city and area which is inhabited.Ayia Zoni is a few hundred yards further down the same road...


Thanks CyMart... was hoping one of you Varoshotes would drop in to confirm that the second church, the one that is clearly behind the fence, in the so-called "Forbidden Zone", is not Agia Zoni but is Agia Ekaterini.

So the CY Mail have got it wrong and may even be accused by some of peddling their angle. Naughty, naughty CY Mail.

CyMart are you able to confirm (or otherwise) that the first picture, the picture post-card church is the real Agia Zoni, the subject of the weekend's incident????
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Re: Which Is The Real Church Of Agia Zoni, Occupied Famagust

Postby quattro » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:07 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Pictures are so powerful ...

So which is the Real Church of Agia Zoni?

Is it No. 1 , this one ? The nice, picture-postcard Agia Zoni...

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Or is it No. 2, this church behind barbed-wire and fence with a campanile as featured at the top of a CY Mail article today...


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As i can see from google earth ayia Zoni is not in the "restricted area"
but inside the old wall city
Ayia Zoni Greek Church, Mustafa Cemal Sk, Famagusta, Cyprus

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/17929391
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Re: Which Is The Real Church Of Agia Zoni, Occupied Famagust

Postby bill cobbett » Wed Mar 16, 2011 7:14 pm

quattro wrote:
bill cobbett wrote:Pictures are so powerful ...

So which is the Real Church of Agia Zoni?

Is it No. 1 , this one ? The nice, picture-postcard Agia Zoni...

Image


Or is it No. 2, this church behind barbed-wire and fence with a campanile as featured at the top of a CY Mail article today...


Image


As i can see from google earth ayia Zoni is not in the "restricted area"
but inside the old wall city
Ayia Zoni Greek Church, Mustafa Cemal Sk, Famagusta, Cyprus

http://www.panoramio.com/photo/17929391


Prob is mate, as Nikitas told us a day or two ago, there are TWO Agia Zoni Churches in the area. So yes, one outside the fence and in the walled old part of Famagusta as you describe, and the other within the fence, if understood Nikitas correctly.
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Nikitas is right.....

Postby cymart » Wed Mar 16, 2011 10:51 pm

The road running from Ayia Ekaterini towards Ayia Zoni used to be called Demophontos and is today the border between the inhabited and closed area of Varosha-as you go down on the right the houses are inhabited while the fence is in front of those on the left and you can actually touch some of them through the wire!Of course all of them are derelict and overgrown with weeds and trees and it appears to be very easy to climb over in quite a few places!!I know someone who actually did it and went into his house for a while without being caught but I don't want to say any more openly on this site.Actually it is very risky because there are patrols by both the Turkish Army and other police guards they employ as auxilliaries and you never know when they might suddenly appear!There is also the problem that the people who live in the houses opposite might call the police if they see anyone climb over the fence-apparently many are settlers rather than Turkish Cypriots and they have been deliberately housed there for that reason!There is also the risk of entering buildings which may be unsafe and collapse as well as unexploded shells etc. left from 1974.....
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:49 am

Enoria Ayias Zonis, with the church at the center is located on the ridge above the B' Astiki primary school. That church is fairly "new" ie built in the 19th century.

The old church in the first photo is also Aya Zoni and located in the walled part of the city. As GCs we were barred from going to the walled city all through the 50s. I do not know if before that there was access to the church or the walled city. As children we were able to visit the walls of Famagusta but never the actual city, and that was long before there was any kind of open hostility between the two communities.

My understanding was that the MEPs arrested tried to pray in the older church in the walled part of Famagusta. Going to the newer Ayia Zoni would be quite a long trip from the fence.
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Postby Nikitas » Thu Mar 17, 2011 9:57 am

Here is a Google map of the "newer" Ayia Zoni and nearby B Astiki, also called Mantzoyrio Dimotiko Sxolio.[img]
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Postby cymart » Thu Mar 17, 2011 12:17 pm

It was definitely the new one which is right by the fence-they climbed over and were then arrested!P.M. me for more info-I have spoken to one of them.
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Postby Nikitas » Fri Mar 18, 2011 12:55 am

Cymart,

So the "fence" is near the school? Which means the houses just outside the school have been given to TCs? So the Annan plan was to have the whole of Kato Varosi excluded from the so calle "return" of the town. Funny how the poor are always the ones shafted when it comes to these plans. Kato Varosi is the working class area of the town. The part that did not share in the "development" of the 70s.
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