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Postby xpistoforos o megas » Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:36 am

as i was browsing through the internet i found many forums and sites that say t/c and g/c have the same dna. is this true or is this a turkish propaganda plan?
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Postby CBBB » Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:42 am

It appears that it is true, when looking for transplant donors there is very high compatibility between GCs and TCs.
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Postby xpistoforos o megas » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:50 am

i can see how that can be true due to turkish and greeks interacting with each other but since during the ottoman occupation of greece including cyprus the greeks found it like a sin to mix with the enemy(turks) so the only solutions i can think of is that turks raped the cypriot greeks, because the rest of greece does not share same dna with turkey(exept for the greeks that are part of the stolen generation) or that the original t/c are actually decendants of g/c that converted to islam for a better life of whatever and assimilated into turkish culture but i stilol have my doubts that g/c have the same dna as g/c.
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Postby Oracle » Thu Apr 16, 2009 11:55 am

CBBB wrote:It appears that it is true, when looking for transplant donors there is very high compatibility between GCs and TCs.


It's not as simple as that CBBB. It centres on the fact that happens to be the general pool they screen!
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Re: cypriot dna

Postby Oracle » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:02 pm

xpistoforos o megas wrote:as i was browsing through the internet i found many forums and sites that say t/c and g/c have the same dna. is this true or is this a turkish propaganda plan?


Dear xpistoforos o megas

Would you please not worry about such a matter as DNA because it is the same for all Humans ... not just t/c or g/c.

Do you realise you are less similar to your mother and father than you are to your brothers and sisters? (using similar criteria to distinguish between individuals). As groups we have no differences in the DNA which leads to our development.
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Postby coremax » Thu Apr 16, 2009 12:11 pm

the brain drain is obvious ;)
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Postby xpistoforos o megas » Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:34 pm

well, your right we are all humans but we are genetically different from other races.
so your saying its ok for turks to call greeks turks but hide the fact that theyre country is one of the most mixed in the world and i was just curious in the responses im not that much concerned but i would like to think that greeks are related to ancient greeks.
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Postby Jerry » Thu Apr 16, 2009 2:52 pm

You may find this interesting Xpistoforos:-


About 250 feet above the monastery the ridge of a spur afforded a level space beneath some tall pines which threw a welcome shade, and would have been a convenient camping-ground. This spot was occupied by the roughest of log-huts, which had been erected by a shepherd as his summer residence when the goats should be driven from the low ground to the mountain pasture. This man was originally a Turk, and formed one of a peculiar sect known in Cyprus as Linobambaki (linen and cotton). These people are said to be converts to Christianity, but in reality they have never been troubled with any religious scruples, and accordingly never accommodate their principles to the society of their neighbourhood. In a Turkish village the Linobambaki would call himself by a Turkish name, as Mahomet, or Hassan, &c., while in a Christian community he would pass as Michael or Georgy, or by other Greek appellations. The name "linen and cotton" applied to them is expressive of their lukewarmness and time-serving, their religious professions fluctuating according to the dictates not of conscience, but personal interest. It is supposed that about 1500 of these people exist in various parts of Cyprus; they are baptised in the Greek Church, and can thus escape conscription for military service according to Turkish law. The goatherd upon our mountain had been a Turkish servant (shepherd) in a Greek family, and had succeeded in gaining the heart of his master's daughter, whom he was permitted to marry after many difficulties. This woman must have been very beautiful when young, as, in spite of hard work and exposure, she was handsome at forty, with a pair of eyes that in youth might have been more attractive than the mysterious light in the hermit's cave. It is one of the blessings of fine eyes that they are almost certain to descend to the children. Property may vanish, litigation may destroy the substance of an inheritance; but the eyes, large, soft, and gentle, which can occasionally startle you by their power and subdue you by a tear, are the children's entail that nothing can disestablish. Even when time has trampled upon complexion, the eyes of beauty last till death.

The children of this Linobambaki and his handsome wife were seven--two boys of about nineteen and seventeen, and five girls from fourteen to one and a half--all of whom had the eyes of the mother developed most favourably. I cannot well describe every individual of a family: there were the two handsome shepherd youths who would have made level ground of mountain steeps, through their power and activity.

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http://www.nalanda.nitc.ac.in/resources ... ter13.html
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Postby Oracle » Thu Apr 16, 2009 3:18 pm

xpistoforos o megas wrote:well, your right we are all humans but we are genetically different from other races.
so your saying its ok for turks to call greeks turks but hide the fact that theyre country is one of the most mixed in the world and i was just curious in the responses im not that much concerned but i would like to think that greeks are related to ancient greeks.


Nope, we are not genetically different from any other 'races'. We are luckily all the same.

But if you are interested in some ties that stretch back, there are markers (not genes), and various other identifiers which can be used to trace our migrations and spread .... not as different races (there just aren't enough differences to assign such a classification to Humans), but as related migratory groups. So of course, most present day Greeks can be shown to be direct descendants of the Ancients (where would they have gone? ... there were no mass extinctions), and they show that Greeks spread right across the Med. towards and including Spain (very predominant in Sicily too :wink: ).

What is more relevant, given that we are genetically similar, is how we behave towards other human beings and our planet. So there really is no excuse when Turks continue to make demands beyond fairness, as though they are gifted :lol:
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Postby coremax » Thu Apr 16, 2009 5:03 pm

Oracle, the information you have supplied, is built upon the Out-of-Africa hypothesis, which relates all of us to a mitochondiral 'Eve' - which in fact is surprisingly quite parallel to some other 'dogma'(s) poured over humanity for a considerable length in time.

I think people has the right to know the truth behind this model - even if you feel more comfortable thinking that way, please read below :

Creation Model
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