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Enclaves and the Turkish TMT plot for TAKSIM!

Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 04, 2009 9:37 am

This thread is written in order to counter the many Turkish Myths and propaganda that is propagated by many Neo Partitionists on this forum.

A common propaganda bite used by the Turkish state to legitimize its 1974 invasion of Cyprus is that "The Greek Cypriots then unleashed a campaign of extermination and eviction that killed or wounded thousands and drove a frightening percentage of Turkish Cypriots into besieged enclaves.." (Insight Magazine, "Fences Might Be the Right Thing for Multiethnic Nation of Cyprus", Ahmet Erdengiz, Feb. 7).


And let’s not mention the false claims of genocide which only claimed about 800 TC lives, compared to some 10,000 GC victims from 1958-1974.

And the sole purpose of these besieged enclaves was none other than to facilitate the dream of TAKSIM!

This claim has been refuted by findings of impartial sources such as the UN Secretary General's report No. S/5950, para. 142 which confirms that as a result of the brief but turbulent period of hostilities between Greek and Turkish-Cypriot extremists from December 21, 1963 to June 8, 1964, a total of 43 Greek Cypriots and 232 Turkish Cypriots are missing and presumed dead. Clearly, this was no "campaign of extermination".


Even UN Secretary General's report S/5950, para. 142 refutes the Turkish claims of extermination and genocide.

Why let facts get in the way of a good story when TAKSIM is your sole objective?

Moreover, these deaths were a direct result of Britain's documented policy of arming Turkish separatists and encouraging Greco-Turkish conflict to facilitate its control over Cyprus.


The real culprit of GC and TC victims has been identified..

While extremists of both communities are to blame for intercommunal violence, fuelled by British attempts to prevent this overwhelmingly Greek island-nation from achieving its self-determination, history is clear that Turkish extremists initiated the cycle of violence that claimed victims on both sides.

In June of 1958, a bomb explosion outside the information office of the Turkish Consulate-- later shown to have been planted by Turkish extremists (the "TMT")--set off the first intercommunal clashes on Cyprus. As noted by British author Christopher Hitchens in his highly acclaimed work on Cyprus, Hostage to History, the self-proclaimed president of Cyprus' occupation regime, Rauf Denktash, admitted in a 1984 interview that it was a Turkish Cypriot friend who planted the bomb. As a result, "Turkish Cypriots promptly burned out a neighbouring district of Greek shops and homes, in what was to be the first Greek-Turkish physical confrontation on the island. A curfew was imposed, and Greek guerrillas [were] blamed [by British authorities] for the bomb as they were for everything else."


The fact that the TCs were the first to instigate intercommunal violence against the GCs, as a pre-cursor for TAKSIM is well documented.

Next the British released from jail eight Greek Cypriot EOKA fighters, forcing them to walk through the Turkish village of Guenyeli, where they were quickly set upon and murdered. Thus began two months of violence by extremists on both sides, killing 56 Greeks and 53 Turks. Tellingly, the British arrested 2,000 Greeks, but only 60 Turks.


More British crimes against Cyprus and their very clever policy of instigating further destabilising violence through "Divide and Rule".

In addition to the hostile environment that was created by combatants on both sides, there was a second factor that led to the polarization of both communities: with a view toward partition, the Turks withdrew from predominantly Greek areas and evicted Greeks from areas where Turks were in the majority. In a single week over 600 families, two-thirds of them Greek, left their homes, and many Turks who left Greek areas did so under intense pressure from Turkish separatists.

Turkish Cypriots who favoured compromise or a close relationship between the two ethnic communities were targets of TMT violence. Turks caught smoking Greek cigarettes or visiting Greek shops were beaten, and Turkish gangs forced some Turkish Cypriots to resign from Greek Cypriot trade unions. In Limassol, a Turkish Cypriot owner of a restaurant popular with Greeks was threatened and later murdered by the TMT. Two progressive-thinking, London-educated Turkish barristers who spoke against partition were killed outright by these same Turkish gangs.

Turkish extremists forced several thousand Turkish peasants to abandon their farms and animals and move into an overcrowded Turkish enclave in Nicosia. "Thus the aim of partition, camouflaged by Turkish propaganda as `federation,' was relentlessly pursued regardless of loss of human life and the human misery created. However, this so-called `first phase' of the invasion of Cyprus by Turkey only partly succeeded, since well over half of its brethren refused to obey instructions to abandon their homes for the predetermined enclaves" (The Making of Modern Cyprus, Panteli). On December 23, 1963, Turkish gangs also moved through the Armenian quarter of Nicosia and forced the inhabitants at gunpoint to leave their houses, shops, church, school and clubs to make room for more Turks.


http://www.ahmp.org/MedByp2.html

TCs are then forced into enclaves by separatist TMT terrorists.

TMT terror against TCs was also instrumental at enforcing TCs to withdraw into enclaves in order to facilitate TAKSIM more easily.

The enclaves were mostly created by TMT separatists in order to facilitate TAKSIM, and have far less to do with the exaggerated propaganda by Neo Partitionists that TCs were forced to withdraw into enclaves for protection against the GCs.
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Jan 04, 2009 10:43 am

Yes Paphitis, but the problem is that we fell for it. Instead of seeing the plot we indulged in the mainland Greeks' idiotic anti communist bullshit that fragmented the GC community and neutralised its ability to resist Taksim.

There were those "lectures" of mainland Greek officers to recruits in the National Guard which described communists as people who would not hesitate to have sex with their sisters. This was considered MILITARY training for heavens sake! They were spouting this crap while Turkey was consolidating its position in Cyprus. There were even those who said partition is preferable to communism.

And no, I am not by any stretch of the imagination communist or left wing even. But I do recognise bullshit when I see it.
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Postby Oracle » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:02 am

Perhaps the Communists were undermining the continued struggle for full Cypriot self-determination.

Democracy and communism are poor bed-fellows after all!
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:11 am

When a community divides and one part fights the other, then the ability of the community to resist outside forces is diminished, if not destroyed altogether. This is the fundamental part that those fanatic officers from Greece failed to perceive.

They also forgot that in Cyprus we had no civil war, so we could not fathom their idiotict fanaticism. AKEL was a legal political party in Cyprus, participating lawfully in the political lifeo of the island and had about 50 per cent of the vote. In Greece the communist party had been outlawed after the civil war and the Greeks were not able to perceive these obvious details. When intelligence officers cannot perceive such simple realities and insist on dogma then the battle is as good as lost before it even starts.
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Postby Nikitas » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:14 am

Oracle,

Do you think that the interests of Greece and Hellenism are always indentical? Would the interests of Hellenism be better served without and independent Cyprus? Is Hellenism served well by the current Athenocentric Greek state?
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Postby Oracle » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:38 am

Nikitas wrote:Oracle,

Do you think that the interests of Greece and Hellenism are always indentical?


Yes and No :? "Greece" as a governing body is subject to the political pressures of survival as a sovereign and economically viable state, and not just as the birthplace or seat of the ideology of Hellenism, which is after all a greater conglomerate of more than just politics and economics with a Will to survive.

We have an Ambassador for Hellenism (sadly :( the one I knew briefly, Julian Chrysostomides, recently lost to us), whose powers/duties could be enhanced.

Would the interests of Hellenism be better served without and independent Cyprus?


I don't think Cyprus is a threat to Hellenism even if Independent. The only threat is from the enemies of Hellenism (The Trio :roll: ) denying Cyprus' majority to remain Hellenic or even acknowledge connections to a Hellenic history.

Is Hellenism served well by the current Athenocentric Greek state?


Well it put an end to internal battles. Cyprus has never waged a war against other states, so maybe it has earned its right to remain independent, but under the Hellenic umbrella.

Perhaps you can give us an up-to-date feel for this last point.
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:42 am

Yes Paphitis, but the problem is that we fell for it. Instead of seeing the plot we indulged in the mainland Greeks' idiotic anti communist bullshit that fragmented the GC community and neutralised its ability to resist Taksim.


Nikitas, there is another side of the coin.

For a long time the Communist Party of Cyprus has acted and behaved in ways which were to the detriment of Cyprus.

They initially defied the calls by Grivas for an armed struggle for self determination and throughout their history defied the west by preferring to align with the Soviet Union.

Even today, AKEL is still behaving with a 1950s mentality which is very polarising. They refuse to apply for admission into the PfP, because they claim that this organisation is closely linked to NATO.

It is really time they grew up and behaved with a bit of maturity and objectivity. It is 2009 for heaven's sake.

It can be quite easily argued that it is this mentality that has landed us in hot water to begin with.

There were those "lectures" of mainland Greek officers to recruits in the National Guard which described communists as people who would not hesitate to have sex with their sisters. This was considered MILITARY training for heavens sake! They were spouting this crap while Turkey was consolidating its position in Cyprus. There were even those who said partition is preferable to communism.


These were childish assertions!

But similar propaganda was also prevalent in the West during the height of the Cold War. But not as ridiculous as the one's you portray above.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Jan 04, 2009 11:57 am

AKEL , did not support the struggle for ENOSIS , fearful that the vehemently anti communist Greek military and regime would come down hard on the Cypriot communists just as they did on the Greek communist party. Would AKEL have supported a struggle whose aim would have been an independent Cyprus ? The answer I feel is a most definite Yes .
Our society was divided into two camps , the Communists and the right wingers. Our village coffee shops were divided too , a communist cafenio and a right wing one. Our football teams for gods sake were also divided .
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:20 pm

Oracle wrote:
I don't think Cyprus is a threat to Hellenism even if Independent. The only threat is from the enemies of Hellenism (The Trio ) denying Cyprus' majority to remain Hellenic or even acknowledge connections to a Hellenic history.


I think both Makarios and Grivas will be turning in their graves if they knew about the rise of anti-Hellenism today. Not to mention all those brave EOKA fighters who sacrificed their lives for a nation of traitors that are willing to sell out our Ethnos in order to gain favour with the Turks. :roll:

I have ultimate respect for both men, despite the mistakes both may have made in the past, which we only see through the benefit of hindsight.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Jan 04, 2009 12:52 pm

Paphitis wrote:Oracle wrote:
I don't think Cyprus is a threat to Hellenism even if Independent. The only threat is from the enemies of Hellenism (The Trio ) denying Cyprus' majority to remain Hellenic or even acknowledge connections to a Hellenic history.


I think both Makarios and Grivas will be turning in their graves if they knew about the rise of anti-Hellenism today. Not to mention all those brave EOKA fighters who sacrificed their lives for a nation of traitors that are willing to sell out our Ethnos in order to gain favour with the Turks. :roll:

I have ultimate respect for both men, despite the mistakes both may have made in the past, which we only see through the benefit of hindsight.

So according to a foreign born Cypriot all Cypriots who are not willing to sell their Cypriot souls to Greece but are instead proud Cypriots , either G/Cs or T/Cs are traitors!!
Mate grow up , The Cypriots ETHNOS is none other than that of Cyprus ,
Why are you being such a spoiled sport , why refuse me the right to be a national of my birth country , why do you insist that my Ethnos is Greece .
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