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Turkey's attempts to ally with anti-coupist forces

Postby GreekForumer » Tue Mar 11, 2008 8:47 am

Tim Drayton wrote:The second question in my mind is that if, as Turkey claimed, it was intervening in accordance with the Treaty of Gurantee which required it to defend the existence and territorial integrity of the Republic, it surely had to attempt to ally itself with any forces within the GC community that were resiting the coup and were fighting to defend the Republic. Is there any evidence that Turkey attempted to contact those GCs who were staging this short-lived attempt to defend the Republic? If not, this must cast doubt on Turkey's allegation that it was simply exercising its right to intervene as a guarantor power.

I don't claim to have any answers to these questions. Like Umit, I am just interested in learning from those who experienced these events. Thanks.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 099#269099




Viewpoint wrote:Why didnt the GCs gree the Turkish Soldiers with flowers and accept they had arrive to restore peace and the consitituiton which had been in taters and left unresolved for 11 years with the TCs paying the highest price while the GCs had total control of not only the Government but the whole island and all its resources.

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 245#269245


Excellent Question Tim!

An answer to your question should in turn answer Viewpoint's question above.

Didn't Turkey clearly spell out her intentions so she could land troops unmolested or under the protection of the Makarios forces ?

If not, wasn't Turkey afraid her honorable intentions might be "mis-understood", the landings difficult and with a possibility "all hell would break loose" ?

Just what were the public or private statements coming out of Ankara about helping anti-coupists ?
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:25 pm

It was a peace operation to restore the deadlock of 11 years, the verocity of the attack on the Turkish Army fuelled the explosion of an army trained to kill, what do yo think would have been the outsome if the GCs woudl have welcomed them with open arms?? in front of the world press?
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Postby boomerang » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:29 pm

Don't worry we knew what to expect from a "turkey=fascist country"...we all seen this black and white movei many times...Starting with the Armenians , the greeks in 55, Cyprus in 74 and with currently the kurds...

I guess all these people should have thrown flowers at the feet of a backwards, fascist, 3rd world county by the name of "turkey=fascist state"


All of the above were peace operations of a fascist country...
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:31 pm

boomerang wrote:Don't worry we knew what to expect from a "turkey=fascist country"...we all seen this black and white movei many times...Starting with the Armenians , the greeks in 55, Cyprus in 74 and with currently the kurds...

I guess all these people should have thrown flowers at the feet of a backwards, fascist, 3rd world county by the name of "turkey=fascist state"


All of the above were peace operations of a fascist country...


You cretin you used guns and bombs what did you expect the Turkish Army to do?
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Postby GreekForumer » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:38 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
boomerang wrote:Don't worry we knew what to expect from a "turkey=fascist country"...we all seen this black and white movei many times...Starting with the Armenians , the greeks in 55, Cyprus in 74 and with currently the kurds...

I guess all these people should have thrown flowers at the feet of a backwards, fascist, 3rd world county by the name of "turkey=fascist state"


All of the above were peace operations of a fascist country...


You cretin you used guns and bombs what did you expect the Turkish Army to do?


We are getting ahead of ourselves here. Did Turkey make clear to the Makarios side and/or the other guarantors, that she will land troops in Cyprus to restore the political situation to it's pre-coup status ?
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Postby boomerang » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:39 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
boomerang wrote:Don't worry we knew what to expect from a "turkey=fascist country"...we all seen this black and white movei many times...Starting with the Armenians , the greeks in 55, Cyprus in 74 and with currently the kurds...

I guess all these people should have thrown flowers at the feet of a backwards, fascist, 3rd world county by the name of "turkey=fascist state"


All of the above were peace operations of a fascist country...


You cretin you used guns and bombs what did you expect the Turkish Army to do?


what was their job as guarantors roden?...have they anounced they were coming to help all Cypriots or just the chosen ones...

Tell me what happened to the GCS that stayed behind?...how mane are left?...tell what happen in 95?...

You are nothing but a paid fascist unable to think on your own free will...now put those knee pads you carry around and get on your knees said the general :lol:
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Postby Viewpoint » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:42 pm

GreekForumer wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
boomerang wrote:Don't worry we knew what to expect from a "turkey=fascist country"...we all seen this black and white movei many times...Starting with the Armenians , the greeks in 55, Cyprus in 74 and with currently the kurds...

I guess all these people should have thrown flowers at the feet of a backwards, fascist, 3rd world county by the name of "turkey=fascist state"


All of the above were peace operations of a fascist country...


You cretin you used guns and bombs what did you expect the Turkish Army to do?


We are getting ahead of ourselves here. Did Turkey make clear to the Makarios side and/or the other guarantors, that she will land troops in Cyprus to restore the political situation to it's pre-coup status ?



makarios asked for help at the UN, Turkey asked UK to help but she said no Turkey moved alone and saved the island from being called Greece.
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Postby GreekForumer » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:55 pm

Viewpoint wrote:makarios asked for help at the UN, Turkey asked UK to help but she said no Turkey moved alone and saved the island from being called Greece.


So I guess the answer from you is no. Turkey did not clarify she was coming to restore the pre-coup order. So you can hardly blame any GC for thinking Turkey came as an invader.

In any case, she could have saved the island from being called Greece by defeating the coupists and restoring the pre-coup order.

But instead she chose to launch Atilla II killing 7000+ Greeks in the process.

What do you think endangered TCs more ?
1. restoring the pre-coup order
2. killing 7000+ Greeks
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Postby Oracle » Tue Mar 11, 2008 1:58 pm

Viewpoint wrote:It was a peace operation to restore the deadlock of 11 years, the verocity of the attack on the Turkish Army fuelled the explosion of an army trained to kill, what do yo think would have been the outsome if the GCs woudl have welcomed them with open arms?? in front of the world press?


At what point did Turkey tell the GCs who were fighting the coupists that it was there to assist them? .... or was it the 11 years of resentment it was out to "avenge" ?

It could not be both ....

Choose!

Did Turkey come to ally itself with the GCs fighting the coupists?

Or

Did Turkey come over to exterminate the GCs for 11 years of "resentment"?
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Postby DT. » Tue Mar 11, 2008 2:04 pm

Oracle wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:It was a peace operation to restore the deadlock of 11 years, the verocity of the attack on the Turkish Army fuelled the explosion of an army trained to kill, what do yo think would have been the outsome if the GCs woudl have welcomed them with open arms?? in front of the world press?


At what point did Turkey tell the GCs who were fighting the coupists that it was there to assist them? .... or was it the 11 years of resentment it was out to "avenge" ?

It could not be both ....

Choose!

Did Turkey come to ally itself with the GCs fighting the coupists?

Or

Did Turkey come over to exterminate the GCs for 11 years of "resentment"?


Turkey came because they got the nod from the US. Had they not been stopped before they would have come earlier...coup or no coup. End of.
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