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How the GC's took the island illegally....In installments.

Postby zan » Mon Oct 08, 2007 9:54 am

A. External tactics (international).

During the recent stages of our national struggle the Cyprus problem has been presented to diplomatic circles as a demand for the exercise of the right of self-determination by the people of Cyprus. In securing the right of self-determination obstacles have been created by the well-known conditions, the existence of a Turkish minority, by the inter-communal conflict and the attempts to show that co-existence of both communities under one government was impossible. Finally, for many international circles the problem was solved by the London and Zurich Agreements, a solution which was presented as the result of negotiations and agreement between the two sides.

a) Consequently, our first target has been to cultivate internationally the impression that the Cyprus problem has not really been solved an the solution requires revision.

b) Our first objective was our endeavour to be vindicated as the Greek majority and to create the impression that:

(i) The solution given is neither satisfactory not fair;

(ii) The agreement reached was not the result of a free and voluntary acceptance of a compromise of the conflicting views;

(iii) That the revision of the agreements constitutes a compelling necessity for survival, and not an effort of the Greeks to repudiate their signature;

(iv) That the co-existence of the two communities is possible, and

(v) That the strong element on which foreign states ought to rely is the Greek majority and not the Turkish Cypriots.


Akritas Plan Initial stage:


Makarios thirteen point amendment.
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Postby DT. » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:08 am

only the 982938746th time zan posts this.
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Postby raymanuva » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:15 am

this forum sucks... is not ZANS fault, its ADMIN's fault for not having any control over this...
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Postby Piratis » Mon Oct 08, 2007 10:40 am

Here is again zan posting some anonymous document again to excuse their crimes that constdute the murder of 10s of thousands of people and the ehnic cleansing of 100s of thousands :roll:

Cyprus always belonged to Cypriots, and Cypriots hoped that after the Turkish, English and other foreign rulers we would be finally allowed to be free and rule our island.

However Turkey and UK Colonialists used the small Turkish minority, that was formed in our island by means of intimidation and force during the Turkish rule in our island, to deny to Cypriots their freedom and self determination.

The document that you post is nothing more than the sentiments of some Greek Cypriot citizen and not anything official.

The official part is the 13 points of Makarios (which you do not post) which would have made Cyprus a more democratic country like all the rest by removing the racist provisions that were forced on us. Still, those 13 points were only proposals, and the TCs could have negotiated them (instead of using them as an excuse for conflict) or if the TCs did not accept democracy and they wanted racist discriminations to continue, then, according to the 1960 agreements, they had the legal right to reject them (like they did - which is why those points where never implemented)

Here are the 13 points. Read them and tell me whether Cyprus would me more democratic and more like every other European democracy before, or after the implimentation of those points.

To me it is clear that those points would simply make Cyprus a much more normal European democracy, and there is absolutely nothing bad about them.

Suggested Measures For The Removal of Causes of Friction Between the Two Communities

1. The right of veto of the President and the Vice-President of the Republic to be abolished.

2. The Vice-President of the Republic to deputise for or replace the President of the Republic in case of his temporary absence or incapacity to perform his duties. In consequence, therefore, all the constitutional provisions in respect of joint action by the President and the Vice-President of the Republic to be modified accordingly.

3. The Greek President of the House of Representatives and its Turkish Vice-President to be elected by the House as a whole and not as at present the President by the Greek Members of the House and the Vice-President by the Turkish Members of the House.

4. The Vice-President of the House of Representatives to deputise for or replace the President of the House in case of his temporary absence or incapacity to perform his duties.

5. The constitutional provisions regarding separate majority for enactment of Laws by the House of Representatives to be abolished.

6. The constitutional provision regarding the establishment of separate Municipalities in the five main towns to be abolished. Provision should be made so that: (a) The Municipal Council in each of the aforesaid five towns shall consist of Greek and Turkish Councillors in proportion to the number of the Greek and Turkish inhabitants of such town by whom they shall be elected respectively. (b) In the Budget of each of such aforesaid towns, after deducting any expenditure required for common services, a percentage of the balance proportionate to the number of the Turkish inhabitants of such town shall be earmarked and disposed of in accordance with the wishes of the Turkish Councillors. 7. The constitutional provision regarding Courts consisting of Greek Judges to try Greeks and of Turkish Judges to try Turks and of mixed Courts consisting of Greek and Turkish Judges to try cases where the litigants are Greeks and Turks to be abolished.

8. The division of the Security Forces into Police and Gendarmerie to be abolished, (Provision to be made in case the Head of the Police is a Greek the Deputy Head to be a Turk and vice versa).

9. The numerical strength of the Security Forces and of the Army to be determined by Law and not by agreement between the President and the Vice-President of the Republic.

10. The proportion of the participation of Greek and Turkish Cypriots in the composition of the Public Service and of the Forces of the Republic, i.e. the Police and the Army, to be modified inproportion to the ratio of the population of Greek and Turkish Cypriots.

11. The number of the members of the Public Service Commission to be reduced from ten to either five or seven.

12. All the decisions of the Public Service Commission to be taken by simple majority. If there is an allegation of discrimination on the unanimous request either of the Greek or of the Turkish members of the Commission, its Chairman to be bound to refer the matter to the Supreme Constitutional Court.

13. The Greek Communal Chamber to be abolished".
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Postby boomerang » Mon Oct 08, 2007 11:03 am

zan this is for you...I hope the admin allows you to have it as an avatar...

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Postby zan » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:55 pm

DT. wrote:only the 982938746th time zan posts this.



Twice actually but would you like to tackle the issue??????
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Postby zan » Mon Oct 08, 2007 5:57 pm

raymanuva wrote:this forum sucks... is not ZANS fault, its ADMIN's fault for not having any control over this...



Control over what Ray?????? :?
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