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[Nikitas]

The attitude of Gabira, and all like him, is very useful. It reminds us of what we are dealing with.

[Paphitis]

The attitude of Gabira, and all like him, is very useful. It reminds us of what we are dealing with.

Shiloputana bline, bali shilies vromi!

Perhaps Miltiades needs to take note as he preaches to a non existent TC community in Cyprus.

Gabira is just typical of what we face. At least she is honest and admits it. Other TCs will just lie to your face (some TC friends of mine on CF excluded - you know who you are).

[shahmaran]

This photograph, by a Turkish photoreporter, proves what I always suspected: there was a deliberate policy by the Turkish army to excute prisoners as part of a wider campaign to terrorise and therefore expel the GCs from northern Cyprus. It was the first deliberate policy of ethnic cleansing in the west, and a precursor of the campaigns of Yugoslavia.

The irony is that in the photo, obviously posed for propaganda, a Turkish soldier offers cigarettes to the prisoners of war, then they shot them, but that part is not photographed.

This latest discovery comes as the most direct corroboration of the reports of the Times in late August and September 1974.

These bums want the world to believe they are the best army in NATO!

I suppose that is why the Atlilar, Sandallar, and Muratağa massacres took place.

What was the reason behind the GC's executing hundreds of civilians who were not even fighters?

Please tell me as I am dying to know.

[Paphitis]

This photograph, by a Turkish photoreporter, proves what I always suspected: there was a deliberate policy by the Turkish army to excute prisoners as part of a wider campaign to terrorise and therefore expel the GCs from northern Cyprus. It was the first deliberate policy of ethnic cleansing in the west, and a precursor of the campaigns of Yugoslavia.

The irony is that in the photo, obviously posed for propaganda, a Turkish soldier offers cigarettes to the prisoners of war, then they shot them, but that part is not photographed.

This latest discovery comes as the most direct corroboration of the reports of the Times in late August and September 1974.

These bums want the world to believe they are the best army in NATO!

I suppose that is why the Atlilar, Sandallar, and Muratağa massacres took place.

What was the reason behind the GC's executing hundreds of civilians who were not even fighters?

Please tell me as I am dying to know.

I don't know...Perhaps it had something to with the Turkish Invasion, and that is not to excuse the appalling crime committed by some fanatical EOKA B lunatic warriors...

But those attacks had nothing to do with the CNG who were busy defending their country and whose honour remains intact.

Perhaps, you could do the right thing and condemn the crimes committed against these 5 CNG POWs and blast Gabira at the same time...it would really mean a lot to me...

Are you ready to condemn this War Crime like I condemn the cowardly acts of EOKA B?

[shahmaran]

My family was not only under the threat of EOKA-B genius, don't try to shift the blame to Greece.

When you condemn the crimes of your own people I will also condemn the crimes of Turkey.

[YFred]

This photograph, by a Turkish photoreporter, proves what I always suspected: there was a deliberate policy by the Turkish army to excute prisoners as part of a wider campaign to terrorise and therefore expel the GCs from northern Cyprus. It was the first deliberate policy of ethnic cleansing in the west, and a precursor of the campaigns of Yugoslavia.

The irony is that in the photo, obviously posed for propaganda, a Turkish soldier offers cigarettes to the prisoners of war, then they shot them, but that part is not photographed.

This latest discovery comes as the most direct corroboration of the reports of the Times in late August and September 1974.

These bums want the world to believe they are the best army in NATO!

I suppose that is why the Atlilar, Sandallar, and Muratağa massacres took place.

What was the reason behind the GC's executing hundreds of civilians who were not even fighters?

Please tell me as I am dying to know.

I don't know...Perhaps it had something to with the Turkish Invasion, and that is not to excuse the appalling crime committed by some fanatical EOKA B lunatic warriors...

But those attacks had nothing to do with the CNG who were busy defending their country and whose honour remains intact.

Perhaps, you could do the right thing and condemn the crimes committed against these 5 CNG POWs and blast Gabira at the same time...it would really mean a lot to me...

Are you ready to condemn this War Crime like I condemn the cowardly acts of EOKA B?

Killing of the GC POW is a war crime and Gabira needs help in dealing with the issues he has what ever may have caused them. The killing of all POWs and innocent civilians is also a war crime. The problem is Governments in the North, Turkey, RoC and Greece all harbour such criminals and have taken no action against any of them.

Bafidi, stop kidding yourself, it is not just Eoka-B that committed crimes so did NG with the full blessing of the RoC, from 1963 to 74. Have you not read the Akritas plan yet?

[Paphitis]

My family was not only under the threat of EOKA-B genius, don't try to shift the blame to Greece.

When you condemn the crimes of your own people I will also condemn the crimes of Turkey.

EOKA B was a Cypriot rag tag militia group led by the irresponsible and rather stupid Cypriot war lord known as Nicos Sampson.

EOKA B had absolutely nothing to do with Greece or the organised CNG which these 5 soldiers were a part of, Einstein.

Don't you dare try and twist this into something this is not, because I'm starting to lose my patience.

In case you haven't noticed, I openly condemn all cowardly acts by the EOKA B rift raft, which not only committed crimes against innocent TCs but also betrayed the nation of Cyprus.

This is what I said:

I don't know...Perhaps it had something to with the Turkish Invasion, and that is not to excuse the appalling crime committed by some fanatical EOKA B lunatic warriors...

I also challenged you to do the same by condemning the atrocious war crime depicted in this thread:

Perhaps, you could do the right thing and condemn the crimes committed against these 5 CNG POWs and blast Gabira at the same time...it would really mean a lot to me...

Are you ready to condemn this War Crime like I condemn the cowardly acts of EOKA B?

So far you have failed miserably...but I have faith in you Shah...so don't let me down...

So what is it going to be Shah?

[Paphitis]

Y-Fred wrote:

Killing of the GC POW is a war crime and Gabira needs help in dealing with the issues he has what ever may have caused them. The killing of all POWs and innocent civilians is also a war crime. The problem is Governments in the North, Turkey, RoC and Greece all harbour such criminals and have taken no action against any of them.

Well this is a significant step...I'm rather proud of you right now.

Well done!

Y-Fred wrote:

Bafidi, stop kidding yourself, it is not just Eoka-B that committed crimes so did NG with the full blessing of the RoC, from 1963 to 74. Have you not read the Akritas plan yet?

Don't get ahead of yourself.

The only CNG attacks occurred on Kokkina and Kophinou and it is not as if there was no reason for the CNG to attack. The TMT was blockading the main highway between Nicosia and Limassol and were ambushing CNG and police convoys for days. They were also smuggling arms through the Kokkina beach head.

This is not to excuse these attacks either.....as I just wish that Makarios and Grivas made a more rational decision here as well. Hindsight is the most powerful weapon of all. There are conflicting reports as to the role both Makarios and Grivas played and just about every GC has something different to say so I will leave this for someone who actually knows much more than I.

Well done Y-Fred. Hopefully Shah is man enough to follow your lead.

[shahmaran]

My family was not only under the threat of EOKA-B genius, don't try to shift the blame to Greece.

When you condemn the crimes of your own people I will also condemn the crimes of Turkey.

EOKA B was a Cypriot rag tag militia group led by the irresponsible and rather stupid Cypriot war lord known as Nicos Sampson.

EOKA B had absolutely nothing to do with Greece or the organised CNG which these 5 soldiers were a part of, Einstein.

Don't you dare try and twist this into something this is not, because I'm starting to lose my patience.

In case you haven't noticed, I openly condemn all cowardly acts by the EOKA B rift raft, which not only committed crimes against innocent TCs but also betrayed the nation of Cyprus.

This is what I said:

I don't know...Perhaps it had something to with the Turkish Invasion, and that is not to excuse the appalling crime committed by some fanatical EOKA B lunatic warriors...

I also challenged you to do the same by condemning the atrocious war crime depicted in this thread:

Perhaps, you could do the right thing and condemn the crimes committed against these 5 CNG POWs and blast Gabira at the same time...it would really mean a lot to me...

Are you ready to condemn this War Crime like I condemn the cowardly acts of EOKA B?

So far you have failed miserably...but I have faith in you Shah...so don't let me down...

So what is it going to be Shah?

Paphitis, lets set one thing straight, I have no obligation to "prove myself" to you nor I care about your "patience" as either way you are the same to me and your personal expectations could not ever play a role on my perspective nor my beliefs.

So, since you condemn and accept the crimes committed towards the TC community, as opposed to the most of the extremists on this forum such as Piratis, Oracle, Sotos, who never EVER admit such crimes took place or even if they do they make sure it is swept under the carpet with silly justifications such as "well who asked you to live on this island in the first place, you got what you deserve", I applaud your honesty and neutrality on this particular matter.

I also want you to know that I too condemn all crimes committed against any innocent people, not only in Cyprus but all over the world.

However this does not mean I am just going to forget everything and be a minority under a GC government, in my own country.

I believe that we should both forgive but we should not forget.

There is a big difference between supporting peace while condemning crimes against humanity and accepting "minority status" under someone else's government, because of.

If we are equally guilty on this island, then the outcome so far has been seriously bias which forces the partition to become more and more permanent, and I do not only mean geographically.

Such a bias and unfair outcome of a conflict between 2 people who are meant to be "equally guilty", reflects a racist agenda and not one of peace and justice.

I have a strong feeling that your condemnations of certain crimes will only go as far as that and nothing more, will not reflect the slightest bit of tendency for a political equality but of ethnic dominance, you are yet to prove me wrong.

[Paphitis]

My family was not only under the threat of EOKA-B genius, don't try to shift the blame to Greece.

When you condemn the crimes of your own people I will also condemn the crimes of Turkey.

EOKA B was a Cypriot rag tag militia group led by the irresponsible and rather stupid Cypriot war lord known as Nicos Sampson.

EOKA B had absolutely nothing to do with Greece or the organised CNG which these 5 soldiers were a part of, Einstein.

Don't you dare try and twist this into something this is not, because I'm starting to lose my patience.

In case you haven't noticed, I openly condemn all cowardly acts by the EOKA B rift raft, which not only committed crimes against innocent TCs but also betrayed the nation of Cyprus.

This is what I said:

I don't know...Perhaps it had something to with the Turkish Invasion, and that is not to excuse the appalling crime committed by some fanatical EOKA B lunatic warriors...

I also challenged you to do the same by condemning the atrocious war crime depicted in this thread:

Perhaps, you could do the right thing and condemn the crimes committed against these 5 CNG POWs and blast Gabira at the same time...it would really mean a lot to me...

Are you ready to condemn this War Crime like I condemn the cowardly acts of EOKA B?

So far you have failed miserably...but I have faith in you Shah...so don't let me down...

So what is it going to be Shah?

Paphitis, lets set one thing straight, I have no obligation to "prove myself" to you nor I care about your "patience" as either way you are the same to me and your personal expectations could not ever play a role on my perspective nor my beliefs.

So, since you condemn and accept the crimes committed towards the TC community, as opposed to the most of the extremists on this forum such as Piratis, Oracle, Sotos, who never EVER admit such crimes took place or even if they do they make sure it is swept under the carpet with silly justifications such as "well who asked you to live on this island in the first place, you got what you deserve", I applaud your honesty and neutrality on this particular matter.

I also want you to know that I too condemn all crimes committed against any innocent people, not only in Cyprus but all over the world.

However this does not mean I am just going to forget everything and be a minority under a GC government, in my own country.

I believe that we should both forgive but we should not forget.

There is a big difference between supporting peace while condemning crimes against humanity and accepting "minority status" under someone else's government, because of.

If we are equally guilty on this island, then the outcome so far has been seriously bias which forces the partition to become more and more permanent, and I do not only mean geographically.

Such a bias and unfair outcome of a conflict between 2 people who are meant to be "equally guilty", reflects a racist agenda and not one of peace and justice.

I have a strong feeling that your condemnations of certain crimes will only go as far as that and nothing more, will not reflect the slightest bit of tendency for a political equality but of ethnic dominance, you are yet to prove me wrong.

I will get back to you about this tomorrow as I don't have the time to reply to you at present.

Goodnight for now.