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[andri_cy]

in some countries, Bill, that would have been considered sexual harrassement. You got away with it easy!

[Bill]

in some countries, Bill, that would have been considered sexual harrassement. You got away with it easy!

I agree but it would have been hard to prove --- English may not have been my strong subject at school -- and I think coupled to the fact that I couldn't speak English until I was 8 years old would have got me off the charge -- perhaps even with a apology from the complainant .

Thank God I don't live in America

Bill

[andri_cy]

LOL you got that right!

[miltiades]

It is refreshing to see that most people will enjoy an innocent joke even if it contains mild sexual undertones.

[Piratis]

Are you really equating having some plans in your possesion with murder?

Murder was one example. Speeding was another. Did you miss the second one intentionally?
I was giving example of things that are illegal, and no, TCs are not so super-human to be excluded from the laws as they probably believe.

In a nutshell. We should embrace with love and care our Turkish Cypriot compatriots (and vice versa) rather than keep the prison option at the ready.

The prison option is open for me and you Bananiot in case we violate the law. Should we now complain that we are not "embraced with love"?

Excluding certain people from the laws can only encourage them to continue with illegalities. At the least it should be made clear to them that what they are doing is illegal.

Why wasn't the architect arrested using Larnaca Airport, that is built on stolen land.

Why stolen?? All countries at times expropriate land to build roads, airports etc. They expropriated some of my land as well. Or is this another example were the super-human TCs should be different than the rest of us?

I'm talking villa style houses built in the last 4 years where the government has given a portion of TC land and a small grant / payment towards the building of a house -- which is still theft and exploiting TC owned land.

Land is given to temporarily house refugees until the Turkish army allows them to return to their own homes. The refugees are not even given titles to any TC property. What exactly you wanted? To let the 200.000 refugees living in tents for 32 years while the 18% of TCs illegally occupied the 36% of land????

When they return to us our land, our refugees would be more than glad to leave from the temporary refugee housing and take back their own properties in the occupied areas which are WAY more than what they are temporarily housed now.

[Viewpoint]

People that violate the laws should be arrested and face the consequences. End of story.

Bananiot and Zopovorto, if you are lawyers then you have the right to go to the courts and defend as many criminals as you like. Beyond that you have no right to ask that people that violate the laws should face no consequences simply because you want to promote partition.

On one hand you complain about the slightest imperfection in the RoC system, and at the same time you are the loudest supporters of illegalities (when those illegalities are performed by the Turks and all those that share your dream of destroying Cyprus). What you do is hypocrisy of the highest level (to say the least).

Well done Piratis and the "Roc" good work, keep arresting the architects, builders, sellers, buyers, lawyers, land registry people, the bankers, etc etc....you will show those bastards congratualtions, hope they get life imprisonment.

[Issy1956]

Pratis,
I repeat in case you have missed the point-you have legal recourse to the ECHR and the property commission what additional benefit is this harrasment giving you? I notice you dont answer the question but leap straight into righteous legalistic nonsense. Are you going to arrest everybody who lives in a refugee house in the north as well. And naturally you hide behind the pseudo legality of the ROC's international recognition in stealing the properties of the TC's for the benefit of the state-the TC's dont recognise you as their legitimate governement and frankly if you and your views are reprentative of GC's then the sooner they close the crossings and build a brick wall from one end of the island to the other the better. Most refugees (from both sides) are not going home my friend and I speak as one my self and the sooner you get used to it the better for us all so that we can all look forward to a better future either as one island and one nation or as two states instead of constantly looking back to the past.

[zoppovortoi]

The actually numbers is:

3.125 refuges families have build houses on TC land (soinikismous).

5.431 families they have build houses on TC land.

5.000 They are living on TC houses, more of them refuges.

And our government is in 1 billion $ dept to the TC’s

I’m not telling about the TC dept because is well know I suppose.

The immediately returning of all the refuges (GC and TC) to their house is ridiculous this problem can only be solved with accommodation and the plan was a balanced solution.

This is a big problem and the most serious analysis’s they have said what the plan was solving the property issue.

The immediately returning of houses just can’t happen for both sides.

I’m just trying to bring some logic about the loud ignorant voices (I’m not pointing anyone).

I’m not trying to excuse the illegalities (on both sides) but we can’t only blame the other side for the situation.

The illegal building on other’s people land has no excuse and we are illegal in all cases according to European laws.

Even then GC’s refuges may be again refuges if we don’t have a solution as soon as possible.

The refuges were terrified by ECHR decision about the returning of TC properties and the government said to them what they would give them land to build elsewhere.

Maybe the arresting of that poor man has some logic I simply don’t see it.

[andri_cy]

Is there any7 information on wether they are at least ready in case he gets sick? My husband is a diabetic and they can get in trouble pretty bad pretty fast.

[Bill]

I'm talking villa style houses built in the last 4 years where the government has given a portion of TC land and a small grant / payment towards the building of a house -- which is still theft and exploiting TC owned land.

Land is given to temporarily house refugees until the Turkish army allows them to return to their own homes. The refugees are not even given titles to any TC property. What exactly you wanted? To let the 200.000 refugees living in tents for 32 years while the 18% of TCs illegally occupied the 36% of land????

When they return to us our land, our refugees would be more than glad to leave from the temporary refugee housing and take back their own properties in the occupied areas which are WAY more than what they are temporarily housed now.

Piratis -- you seem to be very selective in what you read on these posts and how you translate them.

I urge you to read my post again -- yes TC land ( and for that matter GC land) was built on to create housing for displaced Greek Cypriot refugees post 1974 and I don't have a problem with that-- BUT I do wonder about the giving of TC land for villa's to be built on within the last four years ( that's 4 years ) and some of them are bloody big villa's -- much bigger than I could ever afford .
The way you answered my post is as if the houses I talked about were built 30 years ago NOT as I stated within the last 4 years .
Maybe you don't know this is happening --- but I would imagine if you opened you eyes when going around the smaller ( but getting bigger by the day ) villages you would see some of the beautifull villa's poping up on what was originally TC land -- do you think thats right

Are you trying to tell me the occupants of these villa's have been living in tents for the last 28 years waiting for the opportunity to build a villa

As for all the displaced Greeks wanting to go back to their old homes in the north -- I think you are talking rubbish -- with the exception of one person all the displaced greek Cypriots IN CYPRUS I've talked to don't want to go back as they have grown up children / grand children settled in the south they have jobs and friends here and even if they went back -- what would they do -- it would still be a semi hostile enviroment with no work or at the very best still keep the jobs in the south with the problem of travelling miles each day.

Most displaced Greeks want their property back either to pass on to future generations in the hope there might be a proper solution one day or to sell and get some cash for their loss -- they really can't see themselves living there again even though they have always dreamed of doing so.

Sadly reality crushes dreams.

Oh and the one person who said they would go back --- she wanted to keep the TC house she now occupies and also wants her house back in Yialousa so I think we can discount her.

Now if you ask the same question to GC's living abroad they will state almost to a man ( and woman) that they are prepared to go back and live in the north of the island -- which I find stange as they have made a new life elsewhere and apart from the yearly holiday for those in the UK and a once in a blue moon visit from those in Australia and USA they are way out of touch with the real Cyprus .

Before you try and correct me be assured that I've asked the question to many Cypriots before coming to this conclusion.

Bill