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Do you prefer top or bottom?

Postby KELEBEK » Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:10 am

I have a great idea for a Cyprus property settlement. I may just write a letter to the T/C Minister of Interior.

Here it is. Tell me what you think, I am sure you will anyway.


The Turkish Cypriot government could repeal the ban on building more than two floors of houses in villages, in order to house everybody who wants to live in the disputed village, one or two floors can go the G/Cs and another one or two floors to the settlers. That way all you can argue about is which floor you will live on. Do you prefer top or bottom?

Just think Greek-Cypriots and Mainland Turks can live as neighbours! Their children playing with eachother in the fields, effortlessly switching over from thick Anatolian Turkish to Cypriot Greek. You could teach eachother so much!

It could be the beginning of a beautiful friendship!
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Postby Piratis » Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:31 am

The land that a building is on belongs to the people that own apartments in this building. So what you are suggesting is that the GC legal owners should share their own property with the settlers.

How about if TCs share their land with the settlers. Since it seems they like them so much they shouldn't have any problem to do so. Even more, we have some pontians, and some foreign illegal immigrants here. How about every Turkish Cypriots builds 2 more floors on top of his house. One for a settler and another one for an arab or asian illegal immigrant. Sounds great, don't you think?
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Postby KELEBEK » Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:40 am

We could change the law to keep everybody happy. Is it not about people at the end of the day? I think it would be good for you Piratis, you could have first hand experience of living with the Turks, seeing for yourself how human they are. You could learn about the Turks, what makes them happy, sad and what annoys them, you could learn to understand them, and then you wont be so prejudiced against them. T/C already live with the Turks, we marry them, we have affairs with them, eat, drink and fornicate with them. We also have Turkish house keepers, nannies and gardeners.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Jan 02, 2005 3:56 am

You can't change any laws. Turkey is occupying part of Cyprus and they are the ones who decide now what happens and what not.

We will deal with Turkey itself. Talking with Turkish Cypriots is indeed a total waste of time since they are unable to take any kind of decision.
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Postby KELEBEK » Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:11 am

So Greek Cyprus is so mighty and powerful now that it can deal with Turkey first and then sort out the Cyprus problem or impose its own solution (non-solution)!

And how are going to solve the Cyprus problem without the consent of the T/Cs?

In case you have forgotten we must say YES too. It takes two baby!


If talking to T/C is such a waste of time, why are you talking to me and other T/Cs on this forum?
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Postby Piratis » Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:29 am

If talking to T/C is such a waste of time, why are you talking to me and other T/Cs on this forum?


Just to get your views. I want the solution to be a fair one that would be good for all Cypriots.

Nobody can predict the future, many things can happen.
Turkey is a torn nation. They have the "European" Turks, the Islamist turks, the army. They also have the Kurds. All this in a nation that is still looking for an identity, changed from Arabic to Latin and right now is somewhere between but not exactly anywhere.

If you believe that you can always talk from a "power position" then think again, because in this world nothing remains constant.
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Postby KELEBEK » Sun Jan 02, 2005 4:48 am

PIRATIS WROTE

If you believe that you can always talk from a "power position" then think again, because in this world nothing remains constant.


OK I agree that power changes the World over, but lets be realistic, Has the tables changed around so much so that Greek Cyprus is now the powerful one? that Turkey is now the weak one? Do you really believe this? Does Cyprus not need Turkey too? :?:

What do you think will happen if Greek Cyprus does put a veto on Turkey? How about the consequences for Cyprus? :roll: Are the Turks going to be crying like babies begging and willing to do anything? Keep dreaming!

If and when this happens, Turkey will most likely react angrily, its people will lose interest in the EU and they are already beginning to protest against the EU aspirations of their leaders, a more nationalistic (less compromising) party will come to power and undue all the acts of goodwill, like the opening of the green line, cooperation on missing persons, bicommunual activities for young Cypriots. In short, a solution will become even more remote and as Turkey will be outside the EU, it will not be bound by EU law.
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Postby Piratis » Sun Jan 02, 2005 5:07 am

OK I agree that power changes the World over, but lets be realistic, Has the tables changed around so much so that Greek Cyprus is now the powerful one? that Turkey is now the weak one? Do you really believe this? Does Cyprus not need Turkey too?


Where did I say that something has changed now. What I said is that it will change, because nothing remains constant.

What do you think will happen if Greek Cyprus does put a veto on Turkey? How about the consequences for Cyprus? Are the Turks going to be crying like babies begging and willing to do anything? Keep dreaming!

If and when this happens, Turkey will most likely react angrily, its people will lose interest in the EU and they are already beginning to protest against the EU aspirations of their leaders, a more nationalistic (less compromising) party will come to power and undue all the acts of goodwill, like the opening of the green line, cooperation on missing persons, bicommunual activities for young Cypriots. In short, a solution will become even more remote and as Turkey will be outside the EU, it will not be bound by EU law.


First of all I couldn't care less if you close the passages, I never indent to visit my own country by showing a passport.
Second, Turkey needs the EU 100 times more than EU needs Turkey. If Turkey gets rejected in the end a chain reaction can follow that will cost Turkey much more than the EU or Cyprus.
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Postby Othellos » Sun Jan 02, 2005 6:46 am

Regarding the settlers, I think that it would be a lot more useful and a lot more interesting to read the views of those Turkish Cypriots who live permanently in Cyprus and therefore know them better compared to someone who lives far away.

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Postby Bananiot » Sun Jan 02, 2005 10:32 am

I think Kelebek is playing a game with piratis. In fact she is teasing all the GC's of the forum. At least we do not fornicate with the pontians (are we Piratis?)
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