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There is only one conspiracy theory I subscribe to: Jesus was Cypriot! He was still with his parents at 33. He followed the work of his father. His mother thought he was God.

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There is only one conspiracy theory I subscribe to: Jesus was Cypriot! He was still with his parents at 33. He followed the work of his father. His mother thought he was God.

...and he thought his mother was a virgin.

[Paphitis]

Daniella,

You never said a truer word!

If you are a dumb arse that is!

The fact that 16 plonkers of this forum think that the 9/11 disaster was deliberately self afflicted does say a lot about our society which feeds and breaths on conspiracy theories that overshadow and anull are stupid mistakes.

The only plonkers on this thread are those that come out with such stupid uneducated comments!

Please educate us then...

I for one am looking forward to it!

Take just one incident on 9-11, that being the impact on the Pentagon by a standard commercial airliner being flown by a pilot with no experience on type and so poor a private pilot that he was refused rental on a Cessna 172 because of his incompetence. If you believe the official story then lets look at a few relevant facts, no conspiracy just a few ‘mistakes’ which seem to conflict with the story given at the time:

You know, it is not uncommon for airline pilots with thousands of hours of aeronautical experience to be refused rental of a C172 even, only because of inurance requirements which stipulate a check on type.

• From the flight data recorder, the aircraft was flying at a speed 110Knts above Vne (Velocity never exceed) speed, that is over 600MPH.

And your point is!

Never Exceed Speed or Vne is a structural limit specified by the manufacturer. The structural limit is specified because the aircraft runs the risk of structural failure (breaking up) if this limit is exceeded.

• Prior to impact it did an almost 270 degree turn, at this Vne+ speed to impact the ground floor offices in an area of the Pentagon into which an accounts team had just been relocated to investigate a missing trillion dollars from the Pentagon budget. Rumsfeld made this announcement about the missing money the night before 9-11 on National TV.

If this is a CIA black op, then they would have better ways/methods of achieving the same result without killing hundreds of innocent Americans which even the CIA is not capable of doing.

• Had the aircraft stayed on its original heading, instead of making a spectacular 270 deg. turn it would have impacted the area of the Pentagon that housed all the top brass, including Rumsfeld.

The mere fact that Rumsfield was in the building is ample evidence that the CIA had absolutely no involvement.

Furthermore, turning 270 degrees is not easily achieved at such speeds. An aircraft can't in a matter of seconds turn a full 270 degrees. Rate One Turns would turn an aircraft a full 360 degrees in 4 minutes at a rate of 1.5 degrees/per second. This is achieved with an Angle of Bank of less than 15 degrees. A steep turn with an Angle of Bank of 30 degrees or greater will achieve a turn rate of 6 degrees/per second or thereabouts with a massive Wing Loading which would almost certainly result in Structural Failure above Vne, and to turn a full 360 degrees at this rate would require about 60 seconds. The turn would need to be initiated at some 4000FT ++ (dependant on Rate of Descent) to turn a full 270 degrees over 45 seconds as the Rate of Descent would be through the roof in the steep dive whilst running the risk of structural failure.

• At the point of impact it was flying approx 3m above ground level, having ‘jumped’ a hump in the highway it passed over and a also jumped a gantry of in its path. It also managed this feat without so much as damaging a blade of grass on the Pentagon lawns

Bullshit!

But any idiot with only a small amount of training is capable of levelling off and steering the aircraft to their intended target. Flying an aircraft is not particularly a very dificult excercise.

• Upon impact the aircrafts composite fibre nose punched a hole in the outer wall that was significantly smaller than the diameter of the fuselage. The nose cone then appears to have penetrated the building, travelled through several interior reinforced concrete walls, with a combined thickness of around 9m and exited through a hole about 2m in diameter in an inner courtyard, where upon it appears to have vapourised.

This does not impress me very much. A 300 tonne aircraft crashing into the Pentagon at over 600 Knots (1000 km/h) is bound to cause a lot of destruction. Think of the Momentum and Kinetic Energy.

• At the point of impact the windows above the impact point were unbroken, this is where the tail and vertical stabiliser would have impacted. There is no indication at all of the impact point of the wings, nor the two engines, which are the two densest single items on the aircraft.

You aircraft would have most certainly imploded and broke apart at very high velocity, immediately on impact. I'm not saying this is the case, but you are assuming that the tail was still attached to the airframe which is probably unlikely.

• There was no visible debris in front of or around the entry point, commensurate with other air crash sites. The only photographs produced were a photo of what turned out to be the compressor of an auxiliary power unit and the undercarriage also seems to have remarkably disappeared.

Mate, the aircraft would have been pulverised!

The FAA would also have taken away any surviving debris for further investigation.

• The columns inside the building were still visible through the entry hole at this time and still intact. After the collapse there is a video showing a telephone directory, standing on a stool at the edge of the demolished area, with its pages flapping in the wind, inspite of the ignition of several thousand litres of Jet A1 fuel.

Stranger things have happened.

• Within 30 minutes of the event, Pentagon security were starting to clear the area of debris (evidence) and security also went around the local area confiscating CCTV tapes. Of these 100 odd tapes the only bits released have been five frames from one camera that did not even show an aircraft, just a fire ball.

Only in your wildest fantasy! I think you will find that it was the FAA that cleared the crash site. Aviation matters fall under the FAA's jurisdiction and even officials of other Government Agencies can be charged under Federal Aviation Regulations if they interfere.

Experienced airline pilots with tens of thousands of hours on type have said they would find it impossible to manoeuvre such an aircraft at those speeds and make turns that could only be accomplished in a fighter aircraft such as an F16/F18 in the hands of an experienced graduate of the Top Gun school of military aviation.

The aircraft CAN turn 270 degrees only if the turn is initiated at a sufficent altitude for its Rate of Descent. If they initiated the turn high enough, then they can turn at Rate One.

An aircraft could not fly that low, at that speed because of the ground effect. This is the effect that allows an aircraft to float just before the wheels hit the tarmac. Even after touch down the lift provided by the wings has to be physically broken by spoilers to prevent the aircraft bumping back into the air.

Who told you that the aircraft was only 3m above the ground. Did the FAA divulge the information or are you listening to some fucked idiot?

Surely, even the most sceptical person has to ask for some clarrification to explain why the facts appear to refute the story issued as the ‘official’ statement by the US Administration.

The facts refute all the conspiracy theories!

Only an idiot would come up with such nonsense, but what would I know?

So, I think there is a lot that happened on that day that is rather less cut-and-dried than the US Administration would have the people believe and this is only the incident at the Pentagon. There are similar anomalies with ALL the other events.

And I think you are a couple of stubbies short of a 6 pack!

Something does not seem right?

You're telling me! You're an IDIOT!

[kurupetos]

There is only one conspiracy theory I subscribe to: Jesus was Cypriot! He was still with his parents at 33. He followed the work of his father. His mother thought he was God.

...and he thought his mother was a virgin.

...and he thought he was in the centre of the universe.

[quattro]

There is only one conspiracy theory I subscribe to: Jesus was Cypriot! He was still with his parents at 33. He followed the work of his father. His mother thought he was God.

...and he thought his mother was a virgin.

...and he lived in the centre of the universe.

CYPRUS........

[kurupetos]

There is only one conspiracy theory I subscribe to: Jesus was Cypriot! He was still with his parents at 33. He followed the work of his father. His mother thought he was God.

...and he thought his mother was a virgin.

...and he lived in the centre of the universe.

CYPRUS........

More specifically Lurucina, Cyprus.

[yialousa1971]

So was it an outside job?

Yes by Israel.

[yialousa1971]

Why The Military Knows Israel Did 9/11

It's not looking good!

Get a load of this fucked up clown!

Says the forum sheep shearer come circus clown and one of the seven dwarfs (Dopey).

[bill cobbett]

Why The Military Knows Israel Did 9/11

It's not looking good!

Get a load of this fucked up clown!

Says the forum sheep shearer come circus clown and one of the seven dwarfs (Dopey).

Ah there you are Yialoser... have you given up your fascist ways ??

[yialousa1971]

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