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Misuse of USA-Weapons by Turkey to kill GCs ....

Postby Oracle » Thu Dec 17, 2009 10:09 pm

US lawyer sues Turkey in DC court over Cyprus

2009-12-17

A U.S. lawyer says he has filed a class action lawsuit against Turkey for allegedly using U.S.-supplied arms to commit human rights violations in Cyprus.

Athan T. Tsimpedes says U.S. law forbids countries from using American weapons to breach international law.

He said Thursday that the lawsuit was filed last October in a District of Columbia court on behalf of three Greek Cypriots.

Tsimpides alleged that Turkey used U.S. arms to evict Greek Cypriots from their homes in 1974 when it invaded after a coup by supporters of uniting the island with Greece.

Tsimpedes, who is seeking $400 billion ((EURO)274.73 billion) in damages, said he's also suing authorities in the island's breakaway Turkish Cypriot north for promoting in D.C. the sale of Greek Cypriot property.

http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_con ... g=eng_news
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Re: Misuse of USA-Weapons by Turkey to kill GCs ....

Postby james_mav » Fri Dec 18, 2009 4:18 am

Oracle wrote:US lawyer sues Turkey in DC court over Cyprus

2009-12-17

A U.S. lawyer says he has filed a class action lawsuit against Turkey for allegedly using U.S.-supplied arms to commit human rights violations in Cyprus.

Athan T. Tsimpedes says U.S. law forbids countries from using American weapons to breach international law.

He said Thursday that the lawsuit was filed last October in a District of Columbia court on behalf of three Greek Cypriots.

Tsimpides alleged that Turkey used U.S. arms to evict Greek Cypriots from their homes in 1974 when it invaded after a coup by supporters of uniting the island with Greece.

Tsimpedes, who is seeking $400 billion ((EURO)274.73 billion) in damages, said he's also suing authorities in the island's breakaway Turkish Cypriot north for promoting in D.C. the sale of Greek Cypriot property.

http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_con ... g=eng_news

A noble effort from the point of view of keeping the issue at the forefront and causing some embarrassment for the occupier but a lost cause legally. What percentage of conflict related human rights violations don't involve US-manufactured weapons??
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Postby Expatkiwi » Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:26 am

Hey! US weapons are made to save the world for freedom, peace, and democracy. Ah, the home of Ma's Apple Pie, and Napalm.
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Postby Paphitis » Fri Dec 18, 2009 5:33 am

Expatkiwi wrote:Hey! US weapons are made to save the world for freedom, peace, and democracy. Ah, the home of Ma's Apple Pie, and Napalm.


:lol: :lol: :lol:

I love the smell of napalm early in the morning! :lol:

APOCALYPSE NOW 1979
How many people truly admire this Francis Ford Coppola-John Milius collaboration as a scathing indictment of the debacle in Vietnam? Damn few. The real reason the film keeps growing in stature is that it's a hallucinatory head trip, the war film to watch when you are baked and basted.
Key Scene: Helicopters attack to the tune of Wagner's "Ride of the Valkyries."
Best Line: "I love the smell of Napalm in the morning."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Apocalypse_Now

Funniest most politically incorrect one liner ever! :lol:
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Re: Misuse of USA-Weapons by Turkey to kill GCs ....

Postby Oracle » Fri Dec 18, 2009 9:32 am

james_mav wrote:
Oracle wrote:US lawyer sues Turkey in DC court over Cyprus

2009-12-17

A U.S. lawyer says he has filed a class action lawsuit against Turkey for allegedly using U.S.-supplied arms to commit human rights violations in Cyprus.

Athan T. Tsimpedes says U.S. law forbids countries from using American weapons to breach international law.

He said Thursday that the lawsuit was filed last October in a District of Columbia court on behalf of three Greek Cypriots.

Tsimpides alleged that Turkey used U.S. arms to evict Greek Cypriots from their homes in 1974 when it invaded after a coup by supporters of uniting the island with Greece.

Tsimpedes, who is seeking $400 billion ((EURO)274.73 billion) in damages, said he's also suing authorities in the island's breakaway Turkish Cypriot north for promoting in D.C. the sale of Greek Cypriot property.

http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_con ... g=eng_news

A noble effort from the point of view of keeping the issue at the forefront and causing some embarrassment for the occupier but a lost cause legally. What percentage of conflict related human rights violations don't involve US-manufactured weapons??


I don't know if anyone has tackled the issue of 'weapons misuse' (oxymoronic :? ) from this angle before, but someone has to be first and make a stand. If there are direct stipulations against deployment and Turkey has crossed even those, against people rich enough to fire back in this way, then it's a positive step. Who knows, it may set a precedent and it certainly won't hurt to keep Turkey having to account for her actions in court.
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Re: Misuse of USA-Weapons by Turkey to kill GCs ....

Postby james_mav » Fri Dec 18, 2009 11:26 am

Oracle wrote:
james_mav wrote:
Oracle wrote:US lawyer sues Turkey in DC court over Cyprus

2009-12-17

A U.S. lawyer says he has filed a class action lawsuit against Turkey for allegedly using U.S.-supplied arms to commit human rights violations in Cyprus.

Athan T. Tsimpedes says U.S. law forbids countries from using American weapons to breach international law.

He said Thursday that the lawsuit was filed last October in a District of Columbia court on behalf of three Greek Cypriots.

Tsimpides alleged that Turkey used U.S. arms to evict Greek Cypriots from their homes in 1974 when it invaded after a coup by supporters of uniting the island with Greece.

Tsimpedes, who is seeking $400 billion ((EURO)274.73 billion) in damages, said he's also suing authorities in the island's breakaway Turkish Cypriot north for promoting in D.C. the sale of Greek Cypriot property.

http://www.etaiwannews.com/etn/news_con ... g=eng_news

A noble effort from the point of view of keeping the issue at the forefront and causing some embarrassment for the occupier but a lost cause legally. What percentage of conflict related human rights violations don't involve US-manufactured weapons??


I don't know if anyone has tackled the issue of 'weapons misuse' (oxymoronic :? ) from this angle before, but someone has to be first and make a stand. If there are direct stipulations against deployment and Turkey has crossed even those, against people rich enough to fire back in this way, then it's a positive step. Who knows, it may set a precedent and it certainly won't hurt to keep Turkey having to account for her actions in court.

There are certainly stipulations against how weapons can be used, and even how they are disposed of - for example, you can't sell surplus jet fighters to another nation without permission from at least 2 US government departments (State & Defense).

Anyway, the heavy weapons (especially US made tanks) deployed by the occupier in Cyprus are there illegally. In fact, our anatolian friends were embargoed by the US and found themselves unable to buy weapons for years as a result of their "peace operation" in Cyprus. The embargo was highly embarrassing given that supplier and customer were staunch NATO allies, and especially since customer was in a particularly vulnerable position during the cold war, and so the ban was soon lifted for reasons of pragmatism (i.e. in order to convince the Soviets that yes NATO was a coherent and serious military alliance) as well as the usual dose of hypocrisy. I believe however that the RoC is to this day embargoed from US weapons purchases, which is why you see so much ex-Soviet kit in the CNG.
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Postby Expatkiwi » Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:35 pm

Folks, remember what the NRA said: Weapons don't kill people; it's the people who use them who kill people.
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Postby paliometoxo » Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:38 pm

the americans obivously knew turkey was going to use the weapons they publicly thanked america for their help ..

they just had to hide it and did not officially say they can use the weapons.. countries sat back let turkey invade and now are saying they are trying to help solve the problem..
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Postby Oracle » Fri Dec 18, 2009 7:48 pm

Expatkiwi wrote:Folks, remember what the NRA said: Weapons don't kill people; it's the people who use them who kill people.


Exactly! And the people who used (misused) them are the Turks. No one is suing the weapons you dork :roll:

If there are explicit conditions when the weapons are not to be used and someone has breached that, then they were misused under the conditions of the contract of sale. So Turkey deserves to be sued, the weapons taken back and an embargo placed upon her future purchasing potential.

For example, the USA had banned the use of Napalm (after the Vietnam bad press) .... but Turkey went ahead and used it (again) in 1974 .... I think they are the last users of this disgusting material and they still have more in their possession.
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Postby Oracle » Sat Dec 19, 2009 12:02 am

Turkey accused of violating human rights in Cyprus

Cyprus Greeks have resumed court procedure in Columbia district court, USA against Turkey and Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus demanding material and moral compensation of $1trillion, Turkish CNN Turk reported. A Greek lawyer Ahtan Chimbidis submitted the claim on behalf of Greeks with US citizenship. The claim defines that the Turkish have violated human rights in 1974 in Cyprus using American weapons. It’s worth reminding that in 1974 Turkish 43 thousand troops invaded 40% of the island. Currently only Ankara has recognized the Turkish Republic of Northern Cyprus.


http://www.panorama.am/en/politics/2009/12/18/cnn-turk/
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