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[Eliko]

if people put as much effort into LOVING as they do to hating on here it would be a better place.

Why is is all the world hates uk and usa but they are all doing their hardest to get in there ??

Because it is better than being found 'Under the Table' at 'The Stumble Inn' in Lapta.

Or scoffing 'Pie and Mash' in 'Chapter One' just down the road from it.

[Get Real!]

if people put as much effort into LOVING as they do to hating on here it would be a better place.

So is your propagation of MISINFORMATION with this thread one such example of "loving" you SHAMELESS HYPOCRITICAL and CRIMINAL Turkish Cypriot clown?

[Jerry]

if people put as much effort into LOVING as they do to hating on here it would be a better place.

Why is is all the world hates uk and usa but they are all doing their hardest to get in there ??

I think they hate what the governments of those two countries do sometimes. That's not the same as hating the place or the people that live there.

[CanDiaz]

if people put as much effort into LOVING as they do to hating on here it would be a better place.

So is your propagation of MISINFORMATION with this thread one such example of "loving" you SHAMELESS HYPOCRITICAL and CRIMINAL Turkish Cypriot clown?

...yeah where's the frigging link?

The candidate with the closest links to the British Royal family will win the whitehouse.Everyone knows this.

[Viewpoint]

You obviously haven't been to the USA, these people are still very racist just like the GCs and believe they are the chosen race again just like the GCs, whites may have voted for Obama but in the general election there will not be enough of them to get him in, Clinton would have been a better match for McCain, who is now guaranteed presidency.

I cant believe that you can make such a sweeping statement about the States, when you have made only one or two trip to visit Disneyland and had a conversation with Micky Mouse.!!

Sure there are racist people in the USA, just as there are racist people everywhere, including the "trnc". Look at the views by the NeoPartitionist which is nothing short of a Fascistic and Racist views towards anyone who does not buy into their Racist and Fascistic ideology, which you are one of them. I can only wish that the amount of progress made by the Americans in Civil Rights for all Americans since the 1950's where Racism, segregation, 2nd class treatment of the blacks with
"seperate but equal" policies can be adopted by the "trnc" and not wish for the return of the 2004 Annan Plan, which had many of the elements of the above, on how the blacks were treated. Under the AP and what you want today, is hardly anything different in wanting for the GC's who may choose to live in the north. You have not progressed at all, but I'm very happy to report to you, that America has changed from the dark days of the 50's and prior going back to the slavery days of the blacks.

"Time does not stand still" which you are having a very hard time understanding that concept. You are the equivalent of the 1950's white American mentality that you carry with you today, that you believe, that the TC's and GC's cannot live together and continue try to poison the minds of others in accepting your twisted ideology. You are that Racist white American from the 50's who would openly not accept the blacks as being citizens of the USA but an inferior race. This is of course what you accuse the GC's of towards the TC's, but fail to see your own actions at the same time.

No VP, the whites did not just "may have" voted for Obama during the primaries, they actually did, by huge numbers, along with the Latinos. The blacks only represent 10% of the US population, and even then, over 50% never voted before, so Obama's support is 90+ % are non blacks, and the same will be in the General elections. These former slaves have accepted their numerical numbers as being a minority and against all odds, one of them WILL become the next President of the United States of America, all the while you are searching for ways to implement Racist and Fascistic policies in Cyprus for Cypriots. I find that to be very embarrassing in today's times, specially for those who share your views.

Clinton could have also won, despite her "heavy baggage" of not being liked by most Americans. Clinton may have had more favourable policies towards Turkey as did her husband Bill, but I believe Obama will take the country and our foreign policies into a new direction from "doing business as usual" with countries that does not respect Democracy and Freedom of Speech, and also not allowing free pass to Fascist leaders, as well as making those countries accountable for their past criminal activities in treatment of other minorities and illegal occupations of others land.

Has there ever been a black President? assasiation theory will imo only happen if elected, the Americans have not developed enough to accept a black leader.

You are wrong VP. If anyone wanted to get Obama, they will want to do it now, where he is much more "available" then after becoming President. I'm sure there are several nut cases from the KKK and NeoNazi groups would like to get to him, but it will not happen, because over 90% of the people that will be putting Obama in the White House, will be non blacks.

The deciding factor in this case will be the all white mid-west American , these people are still very raw and naively believe whites are the superior race, they know nothing of the outside world and would rather die than see a black president.

Americans have become more and more a "colour blind" society that you think. Gay marriages are more of an issue for the religious Right white Americans than Racial marriages. Middle Americans may be ignorant about the rest of the world, and most have not even ventured outside their own states, but your meeting with Micky Mouse is also no gauge as to how much you know about Americans in general. What most Americans want and they don't really care too much which President helps them, is to be able to make a living, maintain their life styles, keeping their own family values and religion, and respecting the Constitution of the United States, which George Bush and the NeoCons violated many times in the last 8 years, and we are not going to give McCain the chance to do the same............sorry.!!

America has continually grown and evolved from their past ugly history which they have learned a great deal from. Is it perfect yet??........NO, but have come a long way at the same time. This is what we the Cypriots can learn from America and how their
Multi Multi Multi ethnic groups have accepted their place in the American society and became part of it and not rejected it, and apart from gaining extra protection for some of the minorities at certain times in the past, the minorities were not given Undemocratic and Racist "safeguards" over the rest of others, and as a result, Obama can be very proud to have gotten this far on his own, which can only be respected, because he was not given a "free ride", just because he is a minority.

What if he is not elected? will that prove how wrong you are? that your Jack and Norry story that you have us all believe is not reality, just as you do not see the reality in the TRNC how could you, you have not even been here, but I have been to the states many times and travelled from east to west. Will you weave another one of your stories when he loses the race, maybe you'll tell us about the one about that he was not voted in because of his policies or due to the make of his suit. You vomit words that look good on paper but hold no truth or substance.

[repulsewarrior]

...i too think that John McCain has a good chance of winning. As far as I know he is no George Bush, and as an orator, we have not witnessed the campaign as yet between him and Obama. I also know Americans had "niggers" hanging from trees, and dead face down in swamps only forty years ago. And I know that these people are great, the Americans, because of their Freewill, because they confront the fear within themselves so that they can embrace the changes they must make which are for their betterement, as Individuals, and as Human beings.

VP we don't know McCain's policy, who is spitting words?

[Kikapu]

What if he is not elected? will that prove how wrong you are? that your Jack and Norry story that you have us all believe is not reality, just as you do not see the reality in the TRNC how could you, you have not even been here, but I have been to the states many times and travelled from east to west. Will you weave another one of your stories when he loses the race, maybe you'll tell us about the one about that he was not voted in because of his policies or due to the make of his suit. You vomit words that look good on paper but hold no truth or substance.

You think the way you do, because your ideology has not evolved in accepting anything "new". You are doing the same thing with the Cyprus issues. You are stuck in the past or else you are making a deliberate attempt to con us in believing that you are stuck in the past.

So you do not believe that Obama is getting 90+% of his support from non blacks, is that it.?? Don't worry about him becoming the next President of the United States. If he loses short of being cheated as in the last two election the NeoCons stole, it will be the will of the people and Democracy at work, therefore I will not be complaining, unlike you, who does not trust or believes in Democracy.

Why don't you tell us which parts of America you have travelled to and your level of contact with those you have met. So what did you do VP, go to a diner in the Midwest somewhere and asked the locals if they were Racists towards the blacks, and they all put their hands up in the air, and that's how you know that a black person cannot be elected as a President. As I said, there is racism in America, but not at the level you think there is.

It is very easy to make a judgement on the "trnc". All I have to do is find out who supported the AP back in 2004 and who supports the same AP today for a means for a settlement. Those who understood what the AP was all about, is nothing short of the support of the treatment of the blacks before the 60's. Guess what, you are one of those such people, so it is no wonder that you have no vision at all of Obama becoming a President. To you, he is just a another "nigger" who is not able to achieve anything in life without special privileges afforded to him at the expense of others Civil and Human Rights because he is a minority, therefore he should be entitled to Undemocratic means to achieve his goals. Well VP, Obama does not need your kind of handout that you want for yourself, and he has already proven that, even if it means, that his Presidential goals comes to an end today. I hope he has taught you a very valuable lesson in what can be achieved in a "United Society" and in a True Democracy.

[repulsewarrior]

hey lappy,
you sound like chappy
what you doin' down under
welcome, softly softly

[laptachap]

repulsewarrior


Educating the brits from their wayward ways yavash yavash chill dude....................

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu your personal vendetta against me getting very tiresome, Obamas chances of winning are clouded by his colour, and imo it will be the deciding factor because there is are core of white Americans who would never allow a black President, this has nothing to do with me, its my opinion of the American electrote based on the people I have met in the states and worked with. Dont try blowing this out of all proportion and saying that I personally do not think he should be elected, I am not an expert on either candidate nor do not have a vote.

You think the way you do, because your ideology has not evolved in accepting anything "new". You are doing the same thing with the Cyprus issues. You are stuck in the past or else you are making a deliberate attempt to con us in believing that you are stuck in the past.

You can have your opinion but you do not know me at all so your attempts to analyze my ideology are just stabs in the dark which mean jack shit. My views on Cyprus are clear although I do not think both sides will ever find a solution and that agreed partition is the only real alternative available I am still willing to give negotiations a chance on the understanding that something will happen at the end of it, one way or another if we cant agree then the UN should fill in the blanks and both sides will have to accept the outcome.

So you do not believe that Obama is getting 90+% of his support from non blacks, is that it.?? Don't worry about him becoming the next President of the United States. If he loses short of being cheated as in the last two election the NeoCons stole, it will be the will of the people and Democracy at work, therefore I will not be complaining, unlike you, who does not trust or believes in Democracy.

If the majority want Obama and vote him in let it be, Im just putting forward my opinion about the core white Americans not wanting a black president and that for this reason alone he will fail or even be killed trying to suceed.

Why don't you tell us which parts of America you have travelled to and your level of contact with those you have met. So what did you do VP, go to a diner in the Midwest somewhere and asked the locals if they were Racists towards the blacks, and they all put their hands up in the air, and that's how you know that a black person cannot be elected as a President. As I said, there is racism in America, but not at the level you think there is.

None of your business, I have in the past revealed information which you have twisted and abused, so theres noway I will reveal any further personal information about my time in the USA, you will ridicule and downgrade it to a point where only you believe your own spin on things, people are not stupid and see right through your attempts to defame people and their arguements.

It is very easy to make a judgement on the "trnc". All I have to do is find out who supported the AP back in 2004 and who supports the same AP today for a means for a settlement. Those who understood what the AP was all about, is nothing short of the support of the treatment of the blacks before the 60's. Guess what, you are one of those such people, so it is no wonder that you have no vision at all of Obama becoming a President. To you, he is just a another "nigger" who is not able to achieve anything in life without special privileges afforded to him at the expense of others Civil and Human Rights because he is a minority, therefore he should be entitled to Undemocratic means to achieve his goals. Well VP, Obama does not need your kind of handout that you want for yourself, and he has already proven that, even if it means, that his Presidential goals comes to an end today. I hope he has taught you a very valuable lesson in what can be achieved in a "United Society" and in a True Democracy.

You know nothing about the TRNC or the TCs who live here, you are like the expert on child birth who has never given birth, give up your feable attempts at bringing down the people you claim to have originated from yet so easily run into the ground at every opportunity. Goodluck to Obama he has an uphill climb in front of him, even if he against the odds manages to win he better watch his back as there are plenty of mentality derranged individuals like yourself who make things up as they go along then try to persuade everyone else it is the gospel truth to a degree of not only character assasination but even more.