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[miltiades]

Zan the plonker wrote:

""""I think playing with time should be left to Dr.Who. It is the "RoC" that is stuck in 1974. We the people of the TRNC/KKTC have moved on. We have created a republic of our own and still we move on. It is the "RoC" that wants to turn the time back to pre 1974. Can you see what I am saying.......Best left to the good Doctor."""

Listen man , the ROC is Cyprus according to all nations on this planet. The occupied part is NOT RECOGNISED BY ANY ONE. Are you so thick that you can not comprehend this reality.
As far as your earlier comments , I do not drink whiskey or spirits .
Turkey has made tremendous strides towards modernising and bringing Turkey into the 21 st century. To highlight the fact that honor killings , part of a culture that also existed in Greece , is not denigrating the Turkish nation since the government has introduced measures to deal with this barbaric culture.
The western world is not with out it's social problems , honor killings take place in the UK did you know that. The perpetrators are third world illiterates that have settled in the UK but still leave in the stone age.

As far as Muratanga is concerned , he will be telling us next that the Ottoman Empire also civilized the world, is that what is taught in schools in Turkey , well of course it is , remember article 301 , dare anyone challenge it !

[Murataga]

Murataga, what your source states is far away from the freedom that the Cypriots wanted. Please do not try to portrait the Ottomans as the ones that gave Cypriots their freedom.

The use of local leaders was a common practice for the Ottoman way of aministration. All they wanted was to have slaves working and producing in order to rip them off with heavy taxes. The church was the obvious institution to use as their tax collectors since there was no other institution on the island that could play this role. Personally I have no respect for the church and the way they acted during the Ottoman years. Besides some excemptions the church leaders were nothing more than opportunists that were quick to alihn with the occuppiers and were in full cooperation with the oppressors.

Also the fact that the Ottomans made a virtual allocation of land to the Cypriots is also an argument that does not stand. Again this was the way of the Ottomans in order to collect more taxes. The more the production, the more the taxes they collected. Needless to say that the right to property ownership as we know it. Once a person died then his property was returned to the Gate.

The oppression of the Cypriots by the Ottomans is well documented by many historians. The Cypriots revolted many times during the Ottoman occupation of the island and they paid the price a number of times.

So Murataga don't be naive to conclude that the Ottomans were a blessing for the Cypriots because history has shown that people don;t revolt when they are happy and are not severely oppressed. It seems that your nationalistic views make your mind blur to that extend that you made yourself believe that the Ottomans were a gift of God to the Cypriots.

Unfortunately, discussions in these threads can quickly spin out of how they initiate. I mentioned about the Ottoman rule after Sotos said:

Cypriots where here long before you and your kind came Mr. Murataga ! You invaded and expanded against us and imposed your rule on us.

I mentioned it to explain that the Ottomans did not expand over the GCs, but took the island from the Venetians. Venetians were the owners of the island and the Ottomans fought the Venetians under whom GCs had no soical status.

As far as the revolts are concerned: All ethnic communities of the empires in that era strated to revolt as a wave of of nationalism spread throughout the world after the French Revolution. Simple and straightforward actually. The fact is that the GCs received social priveleages and rights unimaginable under the Venetian rule.

[Murataga]

last post was in reply to askimwos.

militades wrote-

As far as Muratanga is concerned , he will be telling us next that the Ottoman Empire also civilized the world, is that what is taught in schools in Turkey , well of course it is , remember article 301 , dare anyone challenge it !

You get detached from the point very easily. I believe my post to askimwos adresses you aswell. Try reading it calmly

[zan]

What you need to do is open your eyes and not just see what you do but what others have done. THe lies come from you time and time again and in your stupidity you cannot see that we will prove you wrong again and again. Did you miss my post on that thread????

Glafcos Clerides, now the President of the Greek Cypriots, said at the time "we the Greek Cypriots are in full control of the Government. All the Ministers are Greeks. Our government is the only one recognised internationally - why should we bring the Turks back in? The Turks today control only 3% of the land. They have no rich resources and they are living through difficult times from an economic point of view. They will ultimately have to accept our point of view - or go."

What did you prove wrong......Glafcos Clerides... You are a complete joke and you think you are going to spread your lies agian as you did for over 40 years. Ain't gonna work pal. We have woken up and you have been caught red handed. You attacked us with the intention of taking over the island. We defended our selves. Its as simple as that, so stop the lies.

[Murataga]

militades wrote-

Listen man , the ROC is Cyprus according to all nations on this planet. The occupied part is NOT RECOGNISED BY ANY ONE. Are you so thick that you can not comprehend this reality.

It is recognized by the Republic of Turkey as a fully independent state. Additionally, The Organization of the Islamic Conference with its 57 member countries (residing over 92% of world`s oil reserves) has already acknowledged TRNC as a constituent state in Cyprus. And we are just getting warmed up here...

But above all that, everyone should know that we will not let go of our independence and freedom because the world or GCs think that we should. We are well-prepared to die protecting our liberty. TCs are addicted to their national sovereignity and will either live with it or die trying to protect it.

[zan]

Perfectly put Murataga. The truth is on our side and the lies keep coming from the "RoC" administration for the whole world to see and see they will.

Zan the plonker wrote:

""""I think playing with time should be left to Dr.Who. It is the "RoC" that is stuck in 1974. We the people of the TRNC/KKTC have moved on. We have created a republic of our own and still we move on. It is the "RoC" that wants to turn the time back to pre 1974. Can you see what I am saying.......Best left to the good Doctor."""

Listen man , the ROC is Cyprus according to all nations on this planet. The occupied part is NOT RECOGNISED BY ANY ONE. Are you so thick that you can not comprehend this reality.
As far as your earlier comments , I do not drink whiskey or spirits .
Turkey has made tremendous strides towards modernising and bringing Turkey into the 21 st century. To highlight the fact that honor killings , part of a culture that also existed in Greece , is not denigrating the Turkish nation since the government has introduced measures to deal with this barbaric culture.
The western world is not with out it's social problems , honor killings take place in the UK did you know that. The perpetrators are third world illiterates that have settled in the UK but still leave in the stone age.

As far as Muratanga is concerned , he will be telling us next that the Ottoman Empire also civilized the world, is that what is taught in schools in Turkey , well of course it is , remember article 301 , dare anyone challenge it !

Hey! so its not whiskey or spirits...Meths will do. What ever you drink it is sending you barmy. Give it up.


As to third world countries currupting the west.Hahahaha! You really are a nutter. Blacks do the muggings, Turks do the drugs and they are all bad. I branded you a bigot and a bigot you are.

[free_cyprus]

what we need in cyprus is asingle language to solve out problems............ and definatly not greek or turkish.............also get rid of all that turisha nd greek flags from the island, and their history books. and theie t v. and radio stations. the biggest mistake cyprus people make is they think that cannot survive, withouth the soo called motherlands. we can survive and we can have a future in peace and harmony. but never i repeat never. while.the cypriots are slaves to turkey and greece...................................shame they cannot be slaves to their own pride and their own cyprus instead of giving it away to outsiders

[Kifeas]

militades wrote-

Listen man , the ROC is Cyprus according to all nations on this planet. The occupied part is NOT RECOGNISED BY ANY ONE. Are you so thick that you can not comprehend this reality.

It is recognized by the Republic of Turkey as a fully independent state. Additionally, The Organization of the Islamic Conference with its 57 member countries (residing over 92% of world`s oil reserves) has already acknowledged TRNC as a constituent state in Cyprus. And we are just getting warmed up here...

But above all that, everyone should know that we will not let go of our independence and freedom because the world or GCs think that we should. We are well-prepared to die protecting our liberty. TCs are addicted to their national sovereignity and will either live with it or die trying to protect it.

Murataga, you better “cure” yourselves from your “addictions,” the soonest possible, because there isn’t such a case or an issue like "your" (Turkish Cypriot) “national sovereignty!” You neither now have any “national sovereignty,” nor you are entitled to one such, in Cyprus!

[Piratis]

What you need to do is open your eyes and not just see what you do but what others have done. THe lies come from you time and time again and in your stupidity you cannot see that we will prove you wrong again and again. Did you miss my post on that thread????

Glafcos Clerides, now the President of the Greek Cypriots, said at the time "we the Greek Cypriots are in full control of the Government. All the Ministers are Greeks. Our government is the only one recognised internationally - why should we bring the Turks back in? The Turks today control only 3% of the land. They have no rich resources and they are living through difficult times from an economic point of view. They will ultimately have to accept our point of view - or go."

What did you prove wrong......Glafcos Clerides... You are a complete joke and you think you are going to spread your lies agian as you did for over 40 years. Ain't gonna work pal. We have woken up and you have been caught red handed. You attacked us with the intention of taking over the island. We defended our selves. Its as simple as that, so stop the lies.

The Turks create lies to support their other lies

Clerides never said such thing. What you quotes is only written in some Turkish propaganda website with the usual lies.

You want to see how easy it is? Here:

I pay Zan 5 cents a day to post propaganda at the Cyprus Forum and scratch my balls because I am too fat to reach them.

Hey, Zan, I found a quote of Denctach about you, look here:
http://www.cyprus-forum.com/viewtopic.p ... 993#162993

[Piratis]

militades wrote-

Listen man , the ROC is Cyprus according to all nations on this planet. The occupied part is NOT RECOGNISED BY ANY ONE. Are you so thick that you can not comprehend this reality.

It is recognized by the Republic of Turkey as a fully independent state. Additionally, The Organization of the Islamic Conference with its 57 member countries (residing over 92% of world`s oil reserves) has already acknowledged TRNC as a constituent state in Cyprus. And we are just getting warmed up here...

But above all that, everyone should know that we will not let go of our independence and freedom because the world or GCs think that we should. We are well-prepared to die protecting our liberty. TCs are addicted to their national sovereignity and will either live with it or die trying to protect it.

Look mate, Turks already have their independence in the country called Turkey. This is Cyprus and Cyprus is for Cypriots. Turkey is illegally occupying our country and violates our sovereignty.

There is one and only country in Cyprus, the Republic of Cyprus. Anybody that claims even an each from Republic of Cyprus is violating the sovereignty of our country and is our enemy that we will fight them until our country is liberated.