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Are Turkish Cypriots indigenous to Cyprus?

Postby Get Real! » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:06 am

Are Turkish Cypriots indigenous to Cyprus?

There is nothing complicated about this matter yet many are seemingly still confused. Indigenous means originating or occurring naturally in an area or environment.

The Turkish Cypriot people are the REMNANTS of the Ottoman invasion so there is NOTHING indigenous about them.

They DO NOT ORIGINATE and HAVE NOT OCCURRED NATURALLY from/on Cyprus but instead they first came to Cyprus UNINVITED in 1571.

Every single Turkish Cypriot should RECOGNISE, ACCEPT, and MEMORIZE the basic FACTS of Cyprus which are:

1. The Greek Cypriots are the ONLY indigenous people on the island of Cyprus.

2. The Greek Cypriots have a history on Cyprus spanning 10,000 years.

3. The oldest Greek Cypriot settlement found is older than that of anything ever found in Turkey or Greece.


Anyone who calls himself a CYPRIOT and expects to have any credibility and respect should first start by getting their basic facts right about Cyprus and that includes you VP.

Regards, GR.
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Postby humanist » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:27 am

NO THEY ARE NOT, they arrived with the Ottoman empire stole land back then and stayed and are stealing land now and staying, only now the international community is saying that is not right and we will not assist in them in their game.
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:34 am

humanist wrote:NO THEY ARE NOT, they arrived with the Ottoman empire stole land back then and stayed and are stealing land now and staying, only now the international community is saying that is not right and we will not assist in them in their game.


So will the international community give you your land back? been 33 years and nothing zilch do you know why? they dont give a shit humanist wake up and smell reality.
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Postby oranos64 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:34 am

GET REAL AND HUMANIST ...AT LAST ,some of you are echoing my view ...TC ...Have absolutely no right to claim any land here in cyprus ...nothing but settlers ,like the francos and venians before them ,...

...at the end of August this year ...i understand a presentation will be made about cyprus history and the movement and displacement of Original Greeks and under the ottoman rule , by European migrations archogleists etc .......some of the articles relating to the forced movement of peoples between Larnaca and Limassol during that period are startling ..whole communities moved ...and land stolen ..

look forward to it my self ...
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Postby humanist » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:43 am

VP they will not give the land back and as I said many times before its not about the land but the freedom and my rights that land represents, you can keep the land and you can keep the trash can status it represents along with the isolation. I have woken to the reality. I was just hoping that we are all humans.


Oranos I am not sure I share all of your views, (sadly I do still believe they do have rights to Cyprus and that is all of Cyprus, Paphos and surounding villages, Larnaca and surounding villages, Lefkosia and surounding villages, Lemesos and Kerinia and surounding villages).
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Re: Are Turkish Cypriots indigenous to Cyprus?

Postby GorillaGal » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:44 am

Get Real! wrote:Are Turkish Cypriots indigenous to Cyprus?

There is nothing complicated about this matter yet many are seemingly still confused. Indigenous means originating or occurring naturally in an area or environment.

The Turkish Cypriot people are the REMNANTS of the Ottoman invasion so there is NOTHING indigenous about them.

They DO NOT ORIGINATE and HAVE NOT OCCURRED NATURALLY from/on Cyprus but instead they first came to Cyprus UNINVITED in 1571.

Every single Turkish Cypriot should RECOGNISE, ACCEPT, and MEMORIZE the basic FACTS of Cyprus which are:

1. The Greek Cypriots are the ONLY indigenous people on the island of Cyprus.

2. The Greek Cypriots have a history on Cyprus spanning 10,000 years.

3. The oldest Greek Cypriot settlement found is older than that of anything ever found in Turkey or Greece.


Anyone who calls himself a CYPRIOT and expects to have any credibility and respect should first start by getting their basic facts right about Cyprus and that includes you VP.

Regards, GR.


wkae up GR, it's 2007. the turks are there, and they aren't leaving.
what is so wrong with co-existing? yes, i know some of you will point out that i livce in a country that was once owned by our native americans. and yes, we have more crime than you do in cyprus, but we have a heck of alot more people per capita. and still we manage to get along, and celebrate everyone's heritage, without having to build a wall.
the greeks are there, the turks are there. i have known both people, and they are both wonderful races. why do you have to keep bringing up something aht happened in the ottoman empire? you can't change history, so why not embrace it, acknowledge it, and MOVE ON already. it's the only way to the cypriot solution. instead, all i hear about is how this race was there first, no that one was. you both have good points. get over it, get on with it, stop worrying about it.
i love you all, the GC and the TC. i would love nothing more than to see peace, at last, and acceptance.
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Postby oranos64 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:51 am

So its ok ..to wipe out and displace cultures and force them to accept yours ,then remove them from their land and eventually establish ways to manipulate their cultures and enforce acceptance of your views and culture

o yeah your in america ....
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Postby Viewpoint » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:52 am

humanist wrote:VP they will not give the land back and as I said many times before its not about the land but the freedom and my rights that land represents, you can keep the land and you can keep the trash can status it represents along with the isolation. I have woken to the reality. I was just hoping that we are all humans.


Oranos I am not sure I share all of your views, (sadly I do still believe they do have rights to Cyprus and that is all of Cyprus, Paphos and surounding villages, Larnaca and surounding villages, Lefkosia and surounding villages, Lemesos and Kerinia and surounding villages).


You can have your land back and the freedom to settle where ever you wish just as soon as you realize that things have changed we have move forward and the solution will be 2 states under a federal roof with political equality as expressed by the UN. In order to move things along bold moves are necessary to create equality on both sides the EU has realized this but are blocked by the south, how long do you think they will put up with this GC attitude, which does not reflect the EU spirit, that level playing field will come with or without your help, with you would gain a lot more but without you will lose the north forever, if people cannot see this then they are more blind and foolish than I have ever imagined. The Italian MPs are just another example and I hope you take them to court and show the EU once again exactly what you are made of.
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Postby oranos64 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 12:57 am

humanist ..the artticles ...i was reading with this french anthropolgist ... shows evidence where entire areas of southern cyprus ...ie ...kalavasos area ...being very fertile were handed over to OTTOMAN ..rulers and the Greeks here forced in land to harder land to work on

also OTTOMANS ...BUILT COMMUNITIES BY SEA AND COASTS ..it was considered a presitiage and a good way to show main land that the land was subdued ..if the naval fleet ... carrying dignitries ...could see mosques and other symbols ,,,

but let us also remember the Turks/ottomans ..did not stop the church ...like the catholics etc did ...they did though ban Greek as a language being taught and the assimulation of all ottoman culture into cyprus ..
music and art was ottoman enforeced on all school children
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Postby oranos64 » Mon Jul 23, 2007 1:02 am

we will not allow the past to be forgotten ... the same way black people have no history ,thanks to western europe and the U.S ...

The original displacements and 5000 years of never knowing freedom for Greeks will never be forgotten.

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The E.U will never accept nor see equality for the North ...no matter how many bent politicians you buy .
with the A.K party back in power on your mainland ...you attempts into Europe are over ...

no 1 trusts you ...no one ever will ...threathen us please ... when we start digging for Gas .,..you will prove you have not changed from the barbarians you once were ...
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