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How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Viewpoint » Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:01 am

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Viewpoint wrote:I totally agree with the hellicopter comment, the rest of your false brotherly love post is again total crap.


I stand with my head high , my principles are out in the open , you are a propagandist who works for the ministry of propaganda , I challenged you many times but you fail to prove me wrong.You HATE the Cypriots , understandable , you also are a part of that modern new world that Zan so much admires , but you will fail miserably because hatred is a vice and vices do not withstand the test of time . Again I challenge you to come clean and tell us who you work for, give us a clue Mr Propagandist, born in the UK ?? Bullshit man , no T/C BORN HERE HATES HIS OWN PEOPLE . You are a fraud a week insignificant employee of the , wait for this , THE ONLY LEGITIMATE INTERNATIONALY RECOGNISED REPUBLIC , NONE OTHER THAN , ARE YOU READY , THE TRNC !!!


Who's the one that backed out of meeting me in the TRNC and showing you around to prove how stupid you have been, I rose to your challenge, allowing you the opportunity to hand over your cheque to the charity of my choice. Not me, all the forum know this and see who is again churning out the same rubbish, stop degrading yourself. You need to apologise to me and everyone on the forum for being ho so wrong.


Do you have any part of your brain that is not effected by the continual propaganda crap , you realy expect the man that tells you that he is utterly convinced beyond a shadow of a doubt that you work for the occupying authorities , to do you the honour and walk into your WEB !! What the hell do you take me for , a f..ng idiot. !!!
All the forum know that you are what I suggest you are , dont hide behind your anonymity and deny the truth. All on this forum know who I am , does anyone apart from your side kick know anything about you.
Since it appears you visit the " UK " perhaps you can give me a call when you are next here. Prove me wrong VPs !
How many Casinos and brothels did you say exist in the glorious TRNC ??
I bet just as many per square intch as in the so called "USA " !!!


What will you do if I call you right now? will you apologise to everyone and eat humble pie donating to charity? Please PM me your phone number in the UK.


Have you backed out yet again???where are you?? I have risen to your challenge yet again, can people on this forum please ackowledge who is lieing here and looking a total idiot that he is.
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:37 am

Stop your silly stunts this minute,VP...Or you will be spanked and set to wait in one corner... :lol:

How will you prove to miltiades that you are an individual and not part of TRNC Propaganda Unit (aka KKTC Enformasyon Dairesi) by talking on the phone??? :evil:

You are not accused of being a robot,some machine built specially to spew out propaganda.If that was the case you could've proved on the phone that you are indeed a human being.We know you are human.What is in doubt is how many VPs there are,and who do you work for... :wink:
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Apr 01, 2007 8:15 am

Birkibrisli wrote:Stop your silly stunts this minute,VP...Or you will be spanked and set to wait in one corner... :lol:

How will you prove to miltiades that you are an individual and not part of TRNC Propaganda Unit (aka KKTC Enformasyon Dairesi) by talking on the phone??? :evil:

You are not accused of being a robot,some machine built specially to spew out propaganda.If that was the case you could've proved on the phone that you are indeed a human being.We know you are human.What is in doubt is how many VPs there are,and who do you work for... :wink:


I have offered to meet both miltiades and Kikapu in the TRNC to prove once and for all that I am just one person a TC who was born in the UK with a job not related to any government establishment. miltiades asked me to call him and has now on 2 occasions challenged me to prove what a stupid idiot you have all been and to convert your twisted ignorance into some benefit for the less fortunate, miltiades claimed he would put his money where his mouth is by pledging 1000 pounds. (Just like the other forum idiot who mocks everything Pyro also pledged knowing that he would never give shit to charity proving to everyone his lack of credibility and character). It appears that both miltiades and kikapu are afraid to meet me in the TRNC as they fear some sort of terrible welcoming committee, this is their choice how else can I beyond a shadow of doubt reveal that I am not what they accuse me off over the net without putting myself on the position they fear themselves?

I am also willing to prove your wrong as well but please clarify what you are prepared to do when you find out how stupid you have been for persecuting and accusing another human bring in the manner you and your pack have been doing so over the past weeks. If you look back I had ceased all this duel stuff but yet again I find it thrust in my face yet no one is willing to stand up for what they are claiming because they know they are totally wrong and will be left with mud on their faces and have to eat (apologise) to me for being such stupid idiots.

Everyone is fed up with your constant baseless accusations, either put up or shut up.
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Postby miltiades » Sun Apr 01, 2007 9:32 am

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"""Have you backed out yet again???where are you?? I have risen to your challenge yet again, can people on this forum please ackowledge who is lieing here and looking a total idiot that he is."""

I see you are doing a bit of overtime , unlike you I dont stay up bloody night just seen your request for my tel.number , you are welcome to have it , I dont have to email you I'm an open book , just visit www.devonscatering.co.uk , get the number ring up and ask for Miltiades the Boss , you will be put through.
What the hell will you tell me on the phone that will entice me to eat humble pie !!! Cant make you out man , you were born in the UK , perhaps the greatest nation on earth leave or take a few million bloody third world immigrants , and yet you emigrate to Cyprus and ...start a business or working for someone who specifically has the need to employ an English speaking person , born in the UK , that can sell the glorious republic of Turkish Cyprus to people from the so called "UK " , who retire in the North part and generally are sold stolen properties.
Amazingly you also believe that by calling me , miraculously , my assumptions as to your involvement with the TRNC will be proven wrong !!!!
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Apr 01, 2007 11:23 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Birkibrisli wrote:Stop your silly stunts this minute,VP...Or you will be spanked and set to wait in one corner... :lol:

How will you prove to miltiades that you are an individual and not part of TRNC Propaganda Unit (aka KKTC Enformasyon Dairesi) by talking on the phone??? :evil:

You are not accused of being a robot,some machine built specially to spew out propaganda.If that was the case you could've proved on the phone that you are indeed a human being.We know you are human.What is in doubt is how many VPs there are,and who do you work for... :wink:


I have offered to meet both miltiades and Kikapu in the TRNC to prove once and for all that I am just one person a TC who was born in the UK with a job not related to any government establishment. miltiades asked me to call him and has now on 2 occasions challenged me to prove what a stupid idiot you have all been and to convert your twisted ignorance into some benefit for the less fortunate, miltiades claimed he would put his money where his mouth is by pledging 1000 pounds. (Just like the other forum idiot who mocks everything Pyro also pledged knowing that he would never give shit to charity proving to everyone his lack of credibility and character). It appears that both miltiades and kikapu are afraid to meet me in the TRNC as they fear some sort of terrible welcoming committee, this is their choice how else can I beyond a shadow of doubt reveal that I am not what they accuse me off over the net without putting myself on the position they fear themselves?

I am also willing to prove your wrong as well but please clarify what you are prepared to do when you find out how stupid you have been for persecuting and accusing another human bring in the manner you and your pack have been doing so over the past weeks. If you look back I had ceased all this duel stuff but yet again I find it thrust in my face yet no one is willing to stand up for what they are claiming because they know they are totally wrong and will be left with mud on their faces and have to eat (apologise) to me for being such stupid idiots.

Everyone is fed up with your constant baseless accusations, either put up or shut up.


VP,

As I said to you before, I don't like "Humble Pie", but rather prefer "Key Lime Pie" instead. :wink:

Let me get really serious here with you now, and I hope you will understand what I'm writing.

You can not prove anything to anyone, just by meeting me, Bir, or Miltiades. As Bir said, you are a person and not "HAL" from 2001 Movie, although that's exactly how you come across on the forum. Of course, your friends and family will dispute that, and I'm not here to tell them, that they are wrong.

We are not in a court room, where evidence is presented to have the truth prevail. Even the truth can be twisted and propagandised to find a person guilty in courts, that happens all over the world, so do not expect to prove anything to anyone, just my talking on the phone or even meeting in person.

We are in public arena on the forum, so we form our ideas of other, from what they write and how they write it. We all form our opinions, based on that, and that only. General public forms their opinions on what they hear, even if it's not the truth, For example, did you really not think that O J Simpson was guilty of murdering 2 people, even though he was found innocent, in the court of law. Guess what, people still think he is the murderer. Or Michael Jackson, that has been vilified as a child molester, and yet found to be innocent, which I believe he is innocent.

You have the same problem. You hide everything about you, which is your right, but with what you say, people form opinions and fill in the missing gaps, that may not be in your favour. Most of us here are very open and do not hide the basic information about ourselves. You on the other hand, are very secretive person, as if you're a wanted person. There's no crime being a Partitionist. It is as you say, just another way of thinking for a solution. But it is the projected Propaganda that surrounds you, is what people judge you on, because it gives the impression, that you would do anything, like take money, or deny others their basic Human Rights to have a Partition. This is how your posts come across. Granted, a little less lately, but the dye had been cast about your persona long ago, so the only way to change that image, is not by meeting certain individuals, but to make posts that are positive, factual, no spin and propaganda, while maintaining your beliefs, about Partition. Isn't that what Democracy is all about, is to allow people to express their views. Democracy is also not "cart blanch free for all", and not expect to have harsh responses. One needs to be responsible with Democracy, and not abuse it. You also do not accept responsibility, when you're are told, on what you write, that is offensive to others. Instead, you try to divert attention, by calling others names, like you try to label me as a GC. The only person even gets close to that accusation, is your pal Zan, and from a distance I may add. Once again, you want to play these silly games, just to deflect attention.

Let's hear your ideas to find ways to make Cyprus work, without stepping on others Human Rights VP. I'm sure you have some ideas. I propose 2 States 1 country, which is as close as you're going to get to having a "Partition", with every ones Human Rights preserved.

You do believe in Human Rights and Democracy, don't you VP.?
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:21 pm

kikapu excuse me but whos accusing who here? whos even been asked to prove they are a TC? lets get this in perspective Im only asking to be treated like everyone else no more no less but you and the pack continue to persecute me for no reason other than I do not subscribe to your ideology, isnt it time you all stood up and said we are wrong to single you out and apologise promising not to churn out the same old crap over and over again even denyıng me the right to rise to your challenges to pove how wrong you and the pack are.

Thats how your minds work even if my 70yo mother confirmed that I have nothing to do with the government and showed you my birth certificate you would still find a way to make yourselves believe you are right, Im fighting a losing battle and you lastest rendition only proves that you are trying to explain things away which you and the pack started in the first place.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Apr 01, 2007 1:32 pm

miltiades wrote:VPs wrote:
"""Have you backed out yet again???where are you?? I have risen to your challenge yet again, can people on this forum please ackowledge who is lieing here and looking a total idiot that he is."""

I see you are doing a bit of overtime , unlike you I dont stay up bloody night just seen your request for my tel.number , you are welcome to have it , I dont have to email you I'm an open book , just visit www.devonscatering.co.uk , get the number ring up and ask for Miltiades the Boss , you will be put through.
What the hell will you tell me on the phone that will entice me to eat humble pie !!! Cant make you out man , you were born in the UK , perhaps the greatest nation on earth leave or take a few million bloody third world immigrants , and yet you emigrate to Cyprus and ...start a business or working for someone who specifically has the need to employ an English speaking person , born in the UK , that can sell the glorious republic of Turkish Cyprus to people from the so called "UK " , who retire in the North part and generally are sold stolen properties.
Amazingly you also believe that by calling me , miraculously , my assumptions as to your involvement with the TRNC will be proven wrong !!!!


Let me get this right you ask me to call you when in London and I say Ok give me your number Ill calll you now and now you say what will it prove? are you mentally stable why did you ask me in the first place? what are you playing at? you accuse me of something I am not then you try to worm your way out when I am prepared to do what you want to prove how stupid you are. I am not far from your catering company do you want me to pop in? what would you like me to bring with me to shut you the fuck up once and for all?
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Postby pitsilos » Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:15 pm

bring with you two independant medical mental certificates that stipulate you ain't mentaly retarded and the other that says you don't suffer from DID.
Dissociative identity disorder (DID) is a controversial diagnosis described in the DSM IV, as the existence in an individual of two or more distinct identities or personalities, each with its own pattern of perceiving and interacting with the environment. At least two of these personalities are considered to routinely take control of the individual's behavior, and there is also some associated memory loss which is beyond normal forgetfulness. This memory loss is often referred to as "losing time" or amnesia.


failing to bring the certificates, and not from some two bob head shrink from the north, :lol: , to any meeting, i am afraid, you are not in a position to demand shit :lol:
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Postby miltiades » Sun Apr 01, 2007 2:22 pm

A granade VP , Yes please , would love to meet you in person , would love to have a drink with you , would love to be proven wrong , I'm a big man I can take it. As Kikapu says when all of your posts are no more than pure propaganda , since you still use inverted commas when referring to the ROC , a practice which only the official TRNC propaganda office would insist upon , when a guy born in the UK returns to the land of honey and roses , the land from which more than half of the T/Cs have left , when you so passionately keep the lid on anything personal about yourself , then of course we judge accordingly. I would have said you are Asil Nadeer , but I know the guy and you dont sound like him. Knew this guy when he was in the garment industry in the UK .
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Apr 01, 2007 3:29 pm

Viewpoint wrote:kikapu excuse me but whos accusing who here? whos even been asked to prove they are a TC? lets get this in perspective Im only asking to be treated like everyone else no more no less but you and the pack continue to persecute me for no reason other than I do not subscribe to your ideology, isnt it time you all stood up and said we are wrong to single you out and apologise promising not to churn out the same old crap over and over again even denyıng me the right to rise to your challenges to pove how wrong you and the pack are.

Thats how your minds work even if my 70yo mother confirmed that I have nothing to do with the government and showed you my birth certificate you would still find a way to make yourselves believe you are right, Im fighting a losing battle and you lastest rendition only proves that you are trying to explain things away which you and the pack started in the first place.


I have not accused you of being "multiple" VP's or work for the "TRNC". True, I have asked you in the past if you had worked for them, and when you said NO, I have not brought it up again. That has been several months. I have only accused you of being a Partitionist and a Propagandist, and I have not even used that word lately, because I think you're trying to choose your words, more carefully.

VP, it is unfair by anyone to be victimized or to be persecuted to what they believe in, but we are in the public arena, and we are being judged by others all the time. People by and large do not like to hear when theirs and others Human Rights are violated, or that one should gain on the loss of others. When there is lack of fairness, compassion, and justice, people react, because I would not want to be treated that way, even though I have been treated that way before, by the GC's at one point. But I can't take those events to my grave with bitterness in my heart, so I would rather use my time to install a better future thinking in others, where we can all benefit.

Vp, if it makes you feel better, I can apologize to you, until the cows come home, but it will not change the perception of people have about you. The only person who can change that, is you. People are not against you, the TC person Per Se, rather they are against "Viewpoint's point of view", the way, he says it.
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