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[miltiades]

It is the fanatics that you serve that are keeping our people isolated , it appears that you don't give a toss about the International communities and you are rather inclined to stick 2 fingers up , the sort that says I'm all right jack fu.

[Viewpoint]

It is the fanatics that you serve that are keeping our people isolated , it appears that you don't give a toss about the International communities and you are rather inclined to stick 2 fingers up , the sort that says I'm all right jack fu.

The international community told you to unite via the Annan plan, who stuck up their fingers not the TCs suprise suprise the GCs, you need to understand where I am coming from Im saying these people ahould be allowed to come back to the north and live on their property and what you recommend to us living in the south we have the mirror image in the north, a GC admin in the south and a TC admin in the north. What so fanatical about this? why not give everyone the choice where they want to live if GCs move north they knwo they will have minority rights and the same for us if we want to live in the south.

[BirKibrisli]

VP...I as a TC would not come back and live in the TRNC,let alone miltiades and other GCs.You know why I wouldn't come? Because I don't want to live in a military controlled state,where the General from Turkey sees fit to refuse to shake the hand of my "prime minister",and demands that he(Soyer) proves his Turkishness,by singing the Turkish national anthem,and placing Turkish flags and Ataturk's photos in political party meeting rooms...This alone is such a belittling insult even to the TCs.How do you expect any GC to live in such a state???

[Viewpoint]

VP...I as a TC would not come back and live in the TRNC,let alone miltiades and other GCs.You know why I wouldn't come? Because I don't want to live in a military controlled state,where the General from Turkey sees fit to refuse to shake the hand of my "prime minister",and demands that he(Soyer) proves his Turkishness,by singing the Turkish national anthem,and placing Turkish flags and Ataturk's photos in political party meeting rooms...This alone is such a belittling insult even to the TCs.How do you expect any GC to live in such a state???

I respect your choice and you are better of staying where you are but we live in the north, we have normal lives just like everyone else. There are many countries all over the world where the sitution is worse than ours but there are also countires where the situaiton is much better than the south. The feelings and opinions you have for living in the north we also have for the south, can you understand this?

[LENA]

Lena you said;

but believe me my dad or any other member of my family or me want to leave our house here and live in the north

Why dont they come now? and claim their land through the property commission? Dont they want to live under TC admin in a TC state?

Ok I left last night and I was busy until now...well VP...I am sorry but I made a mistake with my English...I wanted to say that none of my family, me my dad or anyone else will leave everything we made here in the south and go and leave in the north! At least not at the moment and I am not even sure if I will ever go. I already have my house and all my relatives and friends here...from Pafos to Limasol, from Larnaka to Nicosia. To be honest I dont feel like I do have something in the north that will force me to leave my house. The only thing that I have is my country. my Cyprus! I want to go and see what I was taught since i was a child, I want to see where my dad and my family born and grow up...I want to see Cyprus with my own eyes and not from pictures. I want to live with my compatriots...either Greek speaking or Turkish speaking!

As for your question...dont make me laugh please...how many time do we have to discuss that? No Greek Cypriot recognise a TRNC state, no TRNC government exist for us! I am sorry but this is the reality! And you better wake up! Thats why we are discussing this for 33 years now, thats why we discuss about unification or like Zan want partition!!! Also you complain that we have to change our rules and government policies to apply for the TC community ... what about your rules and policies...does those apply for GCs??? But first of all tell me who run the north part? TCs or Turks? Do you listen what TC want or what Turkey want you to do? At least we have our own government and serve Cypriots...not Greeks!!! VP...even Birkibrisli that is TC doesnt want to live their with the situation that exist at the moment ... dont ask form US to do that!!!

I am not familiar with what Pyros said ... and even if that is true ... put that one up in my list!

Zan...which declaration of independence are you talking about???

[Pyrpolizer]

Lena would they prepared to live in a Tc state under Tc administration?

VP...which part you didnt understand? Who are prepared for what?
I didnt say that my family is getting ready to move to the north under the situation that is going on at the moment now!!

So read my post again and ask me what exactly you want to know!!!

@ T_C

Well T_C I am not the only one that was been through that...Turkish speaking Cypriots have been through the same thing!!!

Lena you said;

but believe me my dad or any other member of my family or me want to leave our house here and live in the north

Why dont they come now? and claim their land through the property commission? Dont they want to live under TC admin in a TC state?

You just dont get it do you ! The entire world considers this part of Cyprus to be occupied by Turkey , as for being T/C administered you are living in a fools paradise !

They may do in legal terms but as usual you make no reference to us the Turkish Cypriots. Unfortunatly for you they are now going to lift the embargoes because we have made enough noise to show them we are there. Administered by TCs....See declaration of independance.

This guy is ALWAYS dreaming.

[Viewpoint]

Lena your life is in the south and we in the north, you may visit the north whenever you wish and me the south. The choice not to visit the north is yours and if you feel so passionately about your country then showing a piece of paper to see the places you only see in pictures is your loss not anyone elses.

The feeling is mutual we feel the same repulsion towards the GC state south of the border, we do not claim to represent Gcs but you claim to represent Tcs theres a big difference there. Thats why its the "RoC" that should take steps to prove the represent all Cypriots raterh than continuing isolate and persecute only TCs. You have every right live to come north and stay but under our adminsitration like we would have to abide by your rules if we wanted to move south.

Bir can do what he wants he will die is a foreign land as that is the path he has chosen foe himself.

[pitsilos]

Bir can do what he wants he will die is a foreign land as that is the path he has chosen foe himself.

vips you are a piece of shit with this comment, and you know it. life is not about choices but sacrifices, something your ego will never allow you to see.

you should apologise for your comment not only to bir, but to every single immigrant world wide.

[zan]

The one declared in 1983 Lena

[miltiades]

Lena your life is in the south and we in the north, you may visit the north whenever you wish and me the south. The choice not to visit the north is yours and if you feel so passionately about your country then showing a piece of paper to see the places you only see in pictures is your loss not anyone elses.

The feeling is mutual we feel the same repulsion towards the GC state south of the border, we do not claim to represent Gcs but you claim to represent Tcs theres a big difference there. Thats why its the "RoC" that should take steps to prove the represent all Cypriots raterh than continuing isolate and persecute only TCs. You have every right live to come north and stay but under our adminsitration like we would have to abide by your rules if we wanted to move south.

Bir can do what he wants he will die is a foreign land as that is the path he has chosen foe himself.

You feel REPULSION towards your fellow Cypriots you pathetic , useless , sold out little arsehole of a department , how dare you little useless , here now gone tomorrow little shit express such hatred towards your fellow Cypriots , but I forget , you are no f..ng Cypriot but an Anatolian f..ng foreigner and the quicker you get the hell out of Cyprus the better for all .
Do us a favour you nasty horrid little shit of a department and piss off.