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no part of Cyprus is Turkish

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Postby GreekForumer » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:37 pm

GAVCARoCOM wrote:I dont understand why people bringing other country problems here .
Say Turkey have problem with Hatay , Kurds ++++
and Greece have problems with Macedonians (they cant share the Alexander) .

Whatever . We have to stick our country and another 100 years (to piratis) we will talk same things again and again 100000s time.
I m going to do barbaque now and take my dog for a walk . Good luck with your propagandas.


Indignant Turks are enraged about GC demands for union with Greece. I reminded Turks about the Republic of Hatay and the sneaky way it became part of Turkey.

Indignant Turks are enraged about the GC treatment and backstabbing of TCs. I reminded Turks about how they treated their allies, the Kurds.
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Re: no part of Cyprus is Turkish

Postby GreekForumer » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:53 pm

shahmaran wrote:Extinction? WTF are you talking about, who is extinct?


What was the purpose of banning Kurdish language, schools, newspapers, etc ? What was the "Mountain Turk" business ? Was the purpose to remove "Kurdishness" from the Republic ?

shahmaran wrote:What have you got to say about the way the Thracian Turks are being treated in Greece, TODAY?


I am happy the EU and ECHR is making Greece "grow up" with respect to ALL minorites in Greece, including the Thracian Turks. Comparing Thracian Turks with Turkish Kurds is somewhat different in that the Kurds were your allies, your buddies.
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Postby pitsilos » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:01 pm

shahmaran wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
iceman wrote:
Piratis wrote:
What you get is the consequence of your illegal actions. Stop the occupation, give us back all our rights and get all of yours.


Nooooo...what you GOT is the consequence of YOUR illegal actions,now like a spoiled kid start crying "give me my marbles back,i dont want to play no more"...You should have thought of that back in 1963 before f*cking up everything...


Iceman,

What is it with you.?

Do you want to blame what others fathers did in the past on the new generation who had nothing to do with anything at all or what.?

If so, you better start pointing fingers to the people in your generation ( I assume you're young and confused) of being guilty on everything your father and uncles may have done in the past also.

Is this your form of justice or what?

If this is the way you think, then I can say for certainty, that you do not belong amongst civilized nations and people, because your answer to everything is to blame and paint everyone with the same tainted brush so that you can justify, what ever it is that you want to justify.

If on the other hand, you want to be constructive and look at who did what and when, then we can all move forward, rather than being stuck in the past.

I would like to hear, what sufferings you have personally suffered, between 1963-74, to have such anger towards the Greek Cypriots, which are your own citizens after all.


Isn't that what exactly Pistilos is doing?

oh no i see, he is ever so forgiving that he "conveniently" forgets the past and concentrates on the future, nice move ;)

Hey Pistilos, simple question, i didn't take your properties, why do i have to suffer?


Shahmaran, you need to lay off the hash, coz its playing havoc with your mind...where did i imply/post anything in this thread or any of my posts.

obsession is a clear sign of mental problems :lol:

ps if you ain't doing hash then stop spanking the monkey :lol:
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Postby shahmaran » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:03 pm

PKK is not our allies nor our buddies, might be yours yes but definitely not ours, Turkey might be a little "heavy-handed" when it comes to dealing with sensitive issues but the Kurds are not all angels either...

I believe Greece has been in the EU for many years now, but still today they are ignoring the rights of the Turks who live there, and you are not suggesting that one has to be a "buddy or allie" to demand their rights do you?
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Postby pitsilos » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:09 pm

still waiting for an answer sham
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:12 pm

"no part of Cyprus is Turkish"

What does it mean ????

Dou you mean All Cyprus are Turkish ? :lol:
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Postby GreekForumer » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:21 pm

shahmaran wrote:PKK is not our allies nor our buddies, might be yours yes but definitely not ours, Turkey might be a little "heavy-handed" when it comes to dealing with sensitive issues but the Kurds are not all angels either.


But Shahmaran, you are avoiding the central questions!
Did Turkey attempt a cultural genocide on the Turkish Kurds ? Yes or No ?
If your Kurdish allies in the early 20s knew that Turks would ban Kurdish language, schools, etc would they have remained allied with you ? Yes or No ? Are the Kurds co founders of the Republic in spirit or in a moral sense ? Yes or No ?

As I wrote earlier, that period of history is very strange. I read somewhere that there has been 20+ Kurdish uprisings in Turkey since the establishment of the Republic.

Why don't you clarify the strange history. Fill in the gaps. And please, no paid propaganda and clever juxtapositions.
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Postby joderv1 » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:31 pm

Hi to all.

I am new to this forum and I have not read through all the past posts. I am interested in the politics of Cyprus, but i don't fully understand and i can admit that.

I am not Turkish or Greek, but married to a Turkish Cypriot. Obviously i have heard stories about Cyprus and his and his families views and have always kept an open mind.

U are saying no part of Cyprus is Turkish. Do the Greeks think that part of Cyprus is Greek. What do the majority Greeks want? Do they want to have the whole Island and one government a Greek government? Or do they want Cyprus to be run equally by Greeks and Turkish government officials? What do the Turkish want in answer to the other questions?

I have lived in Cyprus for a little while and will never fully understand the issues as I am not a Cypriot, but I am interested.

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Postby shahmaran » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:34 pm

pitsilos wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
iceman wrote:
Piratis wrote:
What you get is the consequence of your illegal actions. Stop the occupation, give us back all our rights and get all of yours.


Nooooo...what you GOT is the consequence of YOUR illegal actions,now like a spoiled kid start crying "give me my marbles back,i dont want to play no more"...You should have thought of that back in 1963 before f*cking up everything...


Iceman,

What is it with you.?

Do you want to blame what others fathers did in the past on the new generation who had nothing to do with anything at all or what.?

If so, you better start pointing fingers to the people in your generation ( I assume you're young and confused) of being guilty on everything your father and uncles may have done in the past also.

Is this your form of justice or what?

If this is the way you think, then I can say for certainty, that you do not belong amongst civilized nations and people, because your answer to everything is to blame and paint everyone with the same tainted brush so that you can justify, what ever it is that you want to justify.

If on the other hand, you want to be constructive and look at who did what and when, then we can all move forward, rather than being stuck in the past.

I would like to hear, what sufferings you have personally suffered, between 1963-74, to have such anger towards the Greek Cypriots, which are your own citizens after all.


Isn't that what exactly Pistilos is doing?

oh no i see, he is ever so forgiving that he "conveniently" forgets the past and concentrates on the future, nice move ;)

Hey Pistilos, simple question, i didn't take your properties, why do i have to suffer?


Shahmaran, you need to lay off the hash, coz its playing havoc with your mind...where did i imply/post anything in this thread or any of my posts.

obsession is a clear sign of mental problems :lol:

ps if you ain't doing hash then stop spanking the monkey :lol:





ahh sorry man, i meant Piratis, still not used to these Greek names :oops:



...and i thought spanking the monkey was good for you anyways :lol:
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Postby pitsilos » Thu Mar 15, 2007 5:35 pm

shahmaran wrote:
pitsilos wrote:
shahmaran wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
iceman wrote:
Piratis wrote:
What you get is the consequence of your illegal actions. Stop the occupation, give us back all our rights and get all of yours.


Nooooo...what you GOT is the consequence of YOUR illegal actions,now like a spoiled kid start crying "give me my marbles back,i dont want to play no more"...You should have thought of that back in 1963 before f*cking up everything...


Iceman,

What is it with you.?

Do you want to blame what others fathers did in the past on the new generation who had nothing to do with anything at all or what.?

If so, you better start pointing fingers to the people in your generation ( I assume you're young and confused) of being guilty on everything your father and uncles may have done in the past also.

Is this your form of justice or what?

If this is the way you think, then I can say for certainty, that you do not belong amongst civilized nations and people, because your answer to everything is to blame and paint everyone with the same tainted brush so that you can justify, what ever it is that you want to justify.

If on the other hand, you want to be constructive and look at who did what and when, then we can all move forward, rather than being stuck in the past.

I would like to hear, what sufferings you have personally suffered, between 1963-74, to have such anger towards the Greek Cypriots, which are your own citizens after all.


Isn't that what exactly Pistilos is doing?

oh no i see, he is ever so forgiving that he "conveniently" forgets the past and concentrates on the future, nice move ;)

Hey Pistilos, simple question, i didn't take your properties, why do i have to suffer?


Shahmaran, you need to lay off the hash, coz its playing havoc with your mind...where did i imply/post anything in this thread or any of my posts.

obsession is a clear sign of mental problems :lol:

ps if you ain't doing hash then stop spanking the monkey :lol:





ahh sorry man, i meant Piratis, still not used to these Greek names :oops:



...and i thought spanking the monkey was good for you anyways :lol:


it might cause short term blindness :lol:
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