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Postby carleen » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:33 pm

yes look what your saying the cypriots should know better. When they do voice what they know they are being told its not the right information. What then???
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Postby GreekForumer » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:33 pm

karma wrote:being minority has nothing to do with numbers...for ur info


Karma, you are not using this word in the conventional way. Perhaps you should find an alternative word so your thoughts are clear to native English speakers.
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Postby karma » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:46 pm

GreekForumer wrote:
karma wrote:being minority has nothing to do with numbers...for ur info


Karma, you are not using this word in the conventional way. Perhaps you should find an alternative word so your thoughts are clear to native English speakers.

:? okiez I ll check the word ''minority'' both in google and Babiniotis, and let u knw :wink:
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Postby carleen » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:49 pm

the definition i found to minority

minority [ mī nórrəti, mi nórrəti ]


noun (plural minorities)

Definition:

1. smaller group: a group of people or things that is a small part of a much larger group


2. group with insufficient votes to win: a group that has fewer votes in an organization than another group or groups


3. smaller socially defined group: a group of people, within a society, whose members have different ethnic, racial, national, religious, sexual, political, linguistic, or other characteristics from the rest of society


4. law nonadulthood: the state or period of being younger than the legal age of adulthood




adjective

Definition:

1. of minority: relating to or constituting a minority


2. offensive term: an offensive term meaning belonging to, used or inhabited by, or involving a particular group of people within society who are different from the majority, especially ethnically or racially different
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Postby carleen » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:51 pm

what does this definition tell us about minority???
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Postby T_C » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:51 pm

google wrote:The definition of a minority group can vary, depending on specific context, but generally refers to either a sub-group that does not form either a majority or a plurality of the total population, or a group that, while not necessarily a numerical minority, is disadvantaged or otherwise has less power (whether political or economic) than a dominant group.
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Postby Kazanaki » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:51 pm

Hey, very well put. Short and straight to the point and I totally AGREE on your views. Greek Cypriots are always giving in, to please others.
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Postby karma » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:57 pm

turkish_cypriot wrote:
google wrote:The definition of a minority group can vary, depending on specific context, but generally refers to either a sub-group that does not form either a majority or a plurality of the total population, or a group that, while not necessarily a numerical minority, is disadvantaged or otherwise has less power (whether political or economic) than a dominant group.


thx t_c :wink:
This is wht I wanted to say exactly.
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Postby T_C » Thu Mar 15, 2007 12:59 pm

karma wrote:
turkish_cypriot wrote:
google wrote:The definition of a minority group can vary, depending on specific context, but generally refers to either a sub-group that does not form either a majority or a plurality of the total population, or a group that, while not necessarily a numerical minority, is disadvantaged or otherwise has less power (whether political or economic) than a dominant group.


thx t_c :wink:
This is wht I wanted to say exactly.


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Postby Piratis » Thu Mar 15, 2007 1:13 pm

The Turkish argument that TCs are not a minority is part of their partition dream that started since the 50s.

The Partitionists claimed that Cyprus should be split in two parts (something that involves the ethnic cleansing and the mass human rights violations of 100s of thousands of people) in such a way that the two groups are kept divided and separated.

This way the smaller group (TCs) would not be part of one country (Cyprus) were TCs are the 18% (and therefore minority) but instead TCs would be in their own separate country, which would be ethnically cleansed from GCs, and therefore they would be the majority there.

In the same way that the TCs are told that they have a separate country ("trnc") they are also told that they are not a minority, a word which was demonized by the Turkish propaganda to ensure that TCs would never want to be part of one truly united and democratic Cyprus (where they would naturally be a minority).

After Cyprus entered the EU, Turkey realized that the Cyprus problem exists for her, unlike what they were saying that the Cyprus problem was "solved" in 1974. So they accepted "unification" as just a word, while they didn't accept anything of what this word means (that there will be no separation, that all Cypriots will be one - and therefore TCs a minority within them, etc)

So we have the paradox of some confused TCs that come and tell us that they supposedly want unification, while all the elements of what they want create nothing less than partition, which continues to be the aim of Turkey and the TC leadership.

Being part of an ethnic minority is nothing bad or negative. All people should be treated in exactly the same way regardless of where they belong. On the contrary, splitting people based on their ethnic background, and giving more to some and less to others based on this, is a clear racist discrimination, that is found in no other democratic country in the whole world.
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