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[GAVCARoCOM]

For the full version of this excellent and detailed report visit the following web-site


http://www.crisisgroup.org/home/index.cfm?id=4003&l=1

The most substantial blockage of such an agreement is now the policy and attitude of the Greek Cypriot leadership and in particular of President Tassos Papadopoulos. They should realise that if they persist in their refusal to engage with the United Nations and with Cyprus’s other international partners, the island will slip by default toward permanent partition and the independence of the north, whether formally recognised or not. The idea that Turkish Cypriots will instead accept minority status in a centralised Greek Cypriot state is a pipe dream.

[T_C]

Interesting.

[free_cyprus]

the only way anything is going to get solved in cyprus is when turkish speaking and greek speaking cypriots abandon the idea of motherlands turkey and greece get rid of everythign greek and turkish from the land of cyprus and start thinking like cypriots as one then you will have a chance. turkey greece britain united nations all crooks working together for their own benefit they never done anythign for cyprus but couse us problems and grief

[Pyrpolizer]

How about giving Varoshia back to start with?

Such a detailed report seems to be missing the most important things.... except of course blah,blah,blah

[humanist]

sometimes i think there are jokers running the EU .........

[Jerry]

Most of it makes a lot of sense.

[observer]

Pyrpolizer

How about giving Varoshia back to start with?

Such a detailed report seems to be missing the most important things.... except of course blah,blah,blah

Did you read this part? Not the full answer you may want, but on the way.

To Turkish Cypriots:

14. Ensure that the Turkish Cypriot property commission’s procedures are compatible with the European Convention on Human Rights and reinstate Greek Cypriot property in a refurbished Varosha under Turkish Cypriot administration.

[askimwos]

Interesting to see an "EU" group crying out for Greece to get involved more in the issues related with the RoC!!!

Very one-sided I would say...all it does it to call the RoC to make more and more concessions without saying how these are going to help reunification - the concession it proposes amount to de jure recognition of the trnc - it does not say anything about the aftereffects of such a move.

Interesting to see the board proposing co-management of the Famagusta port between TCs and EU leaving out the GC side without even proposing the return of a city that is empty and rotting. What a nice confidence building measure.

Also interesting is the call to Tpap to give a list to the UN SG of the proposed changes to the Anan plan - I had the impression that this was done almost a year ago.

On the other hand there is a call to stop selling GC properties but at the same time "recognises" the so called compensation committee in the occupied areas. Tell me who of these people would accept a foreign country to invade, capture their home and accept a committee formed by the occupier to judge whether they can return be compensated etc? Totally absurd!

Furthermore, the whole document gives the impression that the GCs don't want a bicommunal, bizonal federation but rather a centralised state. This is another absurd conclusion which does not even care to look at the major political parties in the RoC and the decisions from the National Council where there is a unanimous decision since 1989 about the nature of the solution seeked (bicommunal, bizonal federation).

And here is the most ridiculous one:

(d) revising the current proposals for direct trade to include the incorporation of northern Cyprus into the EU customs union with Turkey,

In other words the board proposed the annexation of north cyprus to Turkey in a quite official way. The last time I checked (protocol 10) the EU considered the RoC to have one sovereignty, only for the acquis to be suspended for the occupied areas due to the occupation.

Btw can anyone let me know whether this International Crisis Board is an official part of the EU or whether this is just another of the so many think tanks? If the latter is the case there are a number of such think tanks that at times came out with completely different proposals.

[zan]

What the matter guys....The report has shown a way in which we can all get along and you guys are now choosing to take sides all of a sudden. I thought you wanted a solution.

[askimwos]

The problem Zan is that with this report there will not be solution, or at least there will not be one that unifies Cyprus. The reports proposals more or less amount not only to a de jure recognition of the trnc but it goes a step further introducing the first elements of what will eventually lead to the annexetion of northern cyprus to Turkey.

If this is the solution you envisage then yes it is a solution. Allow me and other cypriots on this board to deny such a solution.

But you still haven't answered my question. Is this an Board an Official part of the EU?