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[zan]

I am now off to meet VP so I will see you all tomorrow. I go with a heavy heart Andri and saddness that it has effected Pits so badly. I felt that bad when I heard about Murataga a while back Pits and he is fine now so chin up.

[Kikapu]

Zan,

I wonder what score VP would have received, had you had his name on your poll also. In all fairness, his name should have been added.

Call me crazy, but I believe he would have gotten more votes than anyone else, as to who's to blame for VP's taking a leave ( vacation) from the forum.

And while on the subject of taking delight of pushing members off the board, I remember distinctly few months ago, while I was reading through another forum site, which I drop in once or twice a month for few minutes. It turns out, a member was asking what ever happened to Kifeas, that he had not been posting for a while, and someone you know very well Zan said, and I'm paraphrasing it " I would like to think that I had something to do with getting rid of Kifeas from this forum".

Do you remember who that was Zan.

If you don't, I'll be glad to tell you.

Let's see if you are going to ignore this post as well, as you have done to my other posts in this tread.

I must confess, my "blood pressure" has dropped 30%, since VP has been on vacation.

Did you say, VP will return Friday..........Up goes the blood pressure again.

[BirKibrisli]

I am a bit upset that no one has voted for me yet...
I might have to go and vote for myself in a minute.
No one likes to be ignored,do they????

I have been rather preoccupied lately,so obviously missed some vital information.Like what's wrong with Andri...Can someone tell me what happened to her.

And I am very sad to hear about humanist's loss...I do hope they will find the strength and the solace to keep going,mate.I have suffered the loss of two unborn children,and I know exactly what they are going through.

[free_cyprus]

i may disagree with what some memebers in this forum say but i will defent them with my life for them to say what they got to say

[Pyrpolizer]

Tomorrow is now Zan. As soon as you overcome your intitial schock tell us all about your metting with VIPs.

[Pyrpolizer]

For Birkibrisli rearding Andri

http://www.cyprus-forum.com/cyprus9928.html

[zan]

Zan,

I wonder what score VP would have received, had you had his name on your poll also. In all fairness, his name should have been added.

Call me crazy, but I believe he would have gotten more votes than anyone else, as to who's to blame for VP's taking a leave ( vacation) from the forum.

And while on the subject of taking delight of pushing members off the board, I remember distinctly few months ago, while I was reading through another forum site, which I drop in once or twice a month for few minutes. It turns out, a member was asking what ever happened to Kifeas, that he had not been posting for a while, and someone you know very well Zan said, and I'm paraphrasing it " I would like to think that I had something to do with getting rid of Kifeas from this forum".

Do you remember who that was Zan.

If you don't, I'll be glad to tell you.

Let's see if you are going to ignore this post as well, as you have done to my other posts in this tread.

I must confess, my "blood pressure" has dropped 30%, since VP has been on vacation.

Did you say, VP will return Friday..........Up goes the blood pressure again.

AH! Heady days.............I was young.....I was foolish.............................What can I say.

I see you have been PMing each other frantically. Why has it taken so long for you to come up with that one..........


First of all Kikapu I thought there was going to be a bit of a truce until at least the end of the week as a sign of respect for Andri but I will not use that because you will think that I am trying to get out of answering your question.


Secondly I have not ignored any of your posts that I know of. Your post on this thread does not ask any specific questions.....Does it?




Now about my argument with Kifeas.

There are not many people that can say that VP started any of the arguments that he was forced to defend himself on this Forum. Maybe at best he started one or two. The arguments and name calling between you and him we all kept out of. If you want to take that personal point and use it to vilify him then that is your problem. Apart from putting his point of view across he kept a civil tongue in his head. I did not follow all the threads but I have had this confirmed by others. What I object to is the pack mentality and that others, that I will not name haha! saw fit to join in and you were like a pack of wolves. I have never liked bullies and have had my self beaten up twice defending them and I will defend them again. There will be name calling on these Forums and I have come to accept that but what you guys did was out of order.


As far as comparing what I said about Kifeas and what you guys did to VP as a pack there is a world of difference. First of all there were only two people in the argument with Kifeas and myself. ALL the insults and most important of all THREATS came from Kifeas. I got 1 Warning for losing my rag on that Forum and Kifeas got suspended twice. You need 8 warnings for a suspension of a month. My warning came because again I decided to defend Alexios after a vicious attack from Kifeas and not for the on going argument with him.



Now! Knowing all of that and as someone has gone to the trouble of finding the post I made, I give you permission to post the whole of that particular and let others see in what context it was said.


Sorry Kikapu but you guys are 100% wrong in this and I am surprised that you try to defend your actions with more attacks. A simple apology will mean the end of this farce and no hard feelings. You should all practice what you preach and allow people to have their opinions. You are more than entitled to argue your corner and sometimes, just as I did with Bir, when someone uses words like "treason" you can use them back but that does not give you the right to further the personal attacks. You guys did all you could to make VP react the way he did so that you could say that he deserved what he got. I believe, and I am sorry if I am wrong, that the attack was a measured and deliberate one. It is all in the past now and that is where I think it should stay. VP has never threatened anyone with violence as in the case of Kifeas or gone on the attack with someone on the first instance so give him a break. The only good thing that has come out of this is that I got to meet him and we are now talking to one another as friends where as before we shared passing comments with each other.




We met last night and had a great chat about things. As per any other people that have chosen to meet I found VP to be an honest and hard working person. I am afraid he has asked me not to tell you anything about him and has said he will reveal some things himself as and when he sees fit. All your 100 pounds (that none of you tight fisted sods pledged) are safe so there is no need to panic. I can hear some of you laughing at me at the moment but I did say that I would TRY to give you guys proof and I did not know how that would come about without giving too much away. Sorry but that’s the way it is and you can make of that what you will.



I still would like to say that we will respect the truce with respect to Andri but I will answer anything you really want to talk about. She did say that she might actually enjoy reading our arguments but I also think she could do with a break because she probably suffers the ups and downs and depressions that we all do from time to time on this Forum. Perhaps some good cheer would go a long way with her and her family.

[zan]

Humanist

I am sorry to hear about your loss at the moment as well. I must have missed any reference to it before and am upset that I did not respond sooner. Take care and don't worry about the Cyprob at such times. We will be here for a while and thinking of you too.

[humanist]

Thank you Zan, hope you get my private message to you.

[Pyrpolizer]

Zan you basically told us "believe and don’t ask".

The suspicions on VP are too many to be cleared without proof. I tell you whatever he may reveal about himself will be questioned until verified. We never asked his name and address, and never will.
There are many ways to verify information without VP having to reveal personal info. For example VP said is "on computers". Pits can test him in a second because he is on computers too.

To summarise the suspicions on VP are these
1)Is on paid mode
2)Is a high status public servant
3)Is not a genuine TC
4)Is dealing with sales of stolen GC properties

Others may add their list.

NB1. I personally have nothing to apologise for. I asked a direct question and VP lied to me straight and squarely. I simply proved his lie. An innocent lie you may say? Perhaps. Shah told an innocent lie too in the past, he had no problem admitting it and explaining why he said it. I even defended him a couple of times saying it was understandable.
NB2. VP must not hide behind you. Must stand up and fight his own battle.
NB3. Neither you, nor VP are innocent pigeons, re:case of Kifeas
NB4.I never voted for your poll because the poll itself is inaccurate and misleading. I would love to have a perfect score 100% for the real thing though.