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The case of the 5 year old GC missing boy translated

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Postby karma » Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:24 pm

GAVCARoCOM wrote:Hi Karma. How are you?


Hiiiiiiii
where U been???
this is missing boy thread, but he is not u :lol: ...I ll catch u on msn :wink:
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Postby Sotos » Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:29 pm

karma wrote:
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Kikapu wrote:I just had a good read from page one on this thread. As I said before, the truth has a way of coming out sometimes, and I believe, it has once again done that, with the case of this missing GC child.

I could write the whole movie script, as a novel on this boys life, but I have a feeling, the non fiction version will be equally sad and traumatic. The title could well be called "Lost in Transition".

I do expect a movie will be made on this "missing boys" life soon or later. I hope Oliver Stone gets involved in this story as in the movie "Midnight Express" on the life of Billy Hayes. Billy Hayes was recently allowed to visit Turkey again, after being banned from Turkey since the release of that movie back in 1978.


I have just read in the Milliyet that the DNA tests have proved negative. Hakan is not Christaki.
Like all people with a heart I feel for the family. I do hope for a happy ending. What a puzzle.

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Sometimes there is a need to "let the sleeping dogs lie", but in this case, such actions would be criminal to say the least. As VP stated so accurately back in March on this thread, that this case would open a whole "can of worms" for Turkey, if the facts came out on whether the boy was dead or alive. I say let then come out.

So, where does Hakan/Christakis' goes from here, if the final proof with the DNA confirms positive. Talk about the ground shaking under his feet will be an understatement. To understand this just a little, we have to place ourselves in his shoes and walk a mile or two, which a lot of members on this Forum are unable to do most of the times, based on their views on the Cyprus Problems, which are the reasons as to why most of our endless arguments starts.

As in the recent case of a Aborigine who won a landmark court ruling in Australia because he and many others were removed as babies from their own people and "forced" to live like "white man", which meant the loss of his true Identity. Similar cases tend to happen around the world, so that the victims can be used as "Frankenstein Experimental Species". In the case of Hakan/Christakis', he is one more victim to this experiment, even though it may not have been Direct Involvement of the Turkish Government, but rather by one of her Citizens, but the results are the same, however.

I can see many dangers lying ahead for Hakan/Christakis' and his families (plural) in Turkey and Cyprus, both physically and mentally. Their whole world will be turned upside down, as soon as the DNA results come in and they are positive. I do not think he will be able to "just ignore" the results. I can write many predictions on him, but I will just wait for the book/movie to came out instead. The very first thing the RoC should do, is to grant him and his family Cypriot Citizenship with EU Passports to at least allow them the freedom to move anywhere they wish to within the EU, if their lives starts to get "complicated" where they live now.



I have just read in the Milliyet that the DNA tests have proved negative. Hakan is not Christaki.
Like all people with a heart I feel for the family. I do hope for a happy ending. What a puzzle.

Regards
DA


it must be a bad lie for the safety of Hakan and his family , and to defend some people from their lies in the past, I dont believe it..media is fooling again...these 2 photos say everything..I trust my eyes and my 6th sense.. :wink:


I agree with Karma! It is not just how he looks. He is the same age. He has the same wounds on his knees. He can not remember his early childhood except some images of hospitals and a helicopter and the people that adopted him couldn't give a good explanation to him about all these and this is what made him to contact politis!!!!!! :idea:
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Postby Sotos » Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:35 pm

I think the Turkish army gave him to the people that adopted him with the condition that they will never say the truth. Now those people are afraid what the Turkish army can do to them and obviously the "boy" doesn't want any harm on them. I think he already talked to his real mother maybe saw her also and now he will remain as missing just on paper.
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Aug 19, 2007 2:27 pm

Sotos wrote:
karma wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:

I have just read in the Milliyet that the DNA tests have proved negative. Hakan is not Christaki.
Like all people with a heart I feel for the family. I do hope for a happy ending. What a puzzle.

Regards
DA
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it must be a bad lie for the safety of Hakan and his family , and to defend some people from their lies in the past, I dont believe it..media is fooling again...these 2 photos say everything..I trust my eyes and my 6th sense.. :wink:


I agree with Karma! It is not just how he looks. He is the same age. He has the same wounds on his knees. He can not remember his early childhood except some images of hospitals and a helicopter and the people that adopted him couldn't give a good explanation to him about all these and this is what made him to contact politis!!!!!! :idea:


Kikapu wrote:I can see many dangers lying ahead for Hakan/Christakis' and his families (plural) in Turkey and Cyprus, both physically and mentally. Their whole world will be turned upside down, as soon as the DNA results come in and they are positive. I do not think he will be able to "just ignore" the results. I can write many predictions on him, but I will just wait for the book/movie to came out instead. The very first thing the RoC should do, is to grant him and his family Cypriot Citizenship with EU Passports to at least allow them the freedom to move anywhere they wish to within the EU, if their lives starts to get "complicated" where they live now.


I agree with Karma and Sotos. These are the dangers Hakan/Christakis' was talking about. I can think of Dozens of reasons why the DNA results needs to be "Negative". The truth will come out however and the truth will also be damaging to Hakan/Christakis' and his family.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Aug 19, 2007 4:15 pm

karma wrote:
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Kikapu wrote:I just had a good read from page one on this thread. As I said before, the truth has a way of coming out sometimes, and I believe, it has once again done that, with the case of this missing GC child.

I could write the whole movie script, as a novel on this boys life, but I have a feeling, the non fiction version will be equally sad and traumatic. The title could well be called "Lost in Transition".

I do expect a movie will be made on this "missing boys" life soon or later. I hope Oliver Stone gets involved in this story as in the movie "Midnight Express" on the life of Billy Hayes. Billy Hayes was recently allowed to visit Turkey again, after being banned from Turkey since the release of that movie back in 1978.


I have just read in the Milliyet that the DNA tests have proved negative. Hakan is not Christaki.
Like all people with a heart I feel for the family. I do hope for a happy ending. What a puzzle.

Regards
DA
Sometimes there is a need to "let the sleeping dogs lie", but in this case, such actions would be criminal to say the least. As VP stated so accurately back in March on this thread, that this case would open a whole "can of worms" for Turkey, if the facts came out on whether the boy was dead or alive. I say let then come out.

So, where does Hakan/Christakis' goes from here, if the final proof with the DNA confirms positive. Talk about the ground shaking under his feet will be an understatement. To understand this just a little, we have to place ourselves in his shoes and walk a mile or two, which a lot of members on this Forum are unable to do most of the times, based on their views on the Cyprus Problems, which are the reasons as to why most of our endless arguments starts.

As in the recent case of a Aborigine who won a landmark court ruling in Australia because he and many others were removed as babies from their own people and "forced" to live like "white man", which meant the loss of his true Identity. Similar cases tend to happen around the world, so that the victims can be used as "Frankenstein Experimental Species". In the case of Hakan/Christakis', he is one more victim to this experiment, even though it may not have been Direct Involvement of the Turkish Government, but rather by one of her Citizens, but the results are the same, however.

I can see many dangers lying ahead for Hakan/Christakis' and his families (plural) in Turkey and Cyprus, both physically and mentally. Their whole world will be turned upside down, as soon as the DNA results come in and they are positive. I do not think he will be able to "just ignore" the results. I can write many predictions on him, but I will just wait for the book/movie to came out instead. The very first thing the RoC should do, is to grant him and his family Cypriot Citizenship with EU Passports to at least allow them the freedom to move anywhere they wish to within the EU, if their lives starts to get "complicated" where they live now.



I have just read in the Milliyet that the DNA tests have proved negative. Hakan is not Christaki.
Like all people with a heart I feel for the family. I do hope for a happy ending. What a puzzle.

Regards
DA


it must be a bad lie for the safety of Hakan and his family , and to defend some people from their lies in the past, I dont believe it..media is fooling again...these 2 photos say everything..I trust my eyes and my 6th sense.. :wink:



Hello Karma
Nice to hear from you.

What do your instincts and 6th sense tell you
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Postby Kifeas » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:58 pm

If everything that Andreas Paraschos wrote in “Politis” is true (and I have no reason not to believe him -particularly him,) then we have a closed case! As for the two photos, then and now, the face features (shapes, mesurements, proportions) are almost identical!

As for Miliet's DNA results, did they also get samples from his mother in Cyprus? When? How?
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Aug 19, 2007 8:31 pm

Kifeas wrote:If everything that Andreas Paraschos wrote in “Politis” is true (and I have no reason not to believe him -particularly him,) then we have a closed case! As for the two photos, then and now, the face features (shapes, mesurements, proportions) are almost identical!

As for Miliet's DNA results, did they also get samples from his mother in Cyprus? When? How?


Kifeas,

Perhaps Milliyet is telling the truth, that the DNA did not match.

That would be the case of course, if they were trying to match his DNA with the DNA of his "Turkish Parents".

Besides, nobody is going to accept just one DNA results conducted in Turkey, and unless Hakan/Christakis' refuses to cooperate, other tests will be conducted.
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Postby zan » Sun Aug 19, 2007 10:54 pm

If it was covered up in anyway then it was done with this young mans consent and maybe his mothers. This test can be repeated anywhere anytime so easily that it cannot be part of a cover up by the army. Do you really think that they are that stupid. The story will come out when this young man says so. I really think the media and US should leave him alone. I know the media will not but US????????Any human beings in here???? :roll:
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Postby humanist » Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:27 pm

The main thing I got out of the article was Denktas lies about the boy being dead. May be the Turkish army didn't lie but the fat man did.
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Postby zan » Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:39 pm

I meant US as in us Humanist! :roll: :roll: :roll:
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