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The case of the 5 year old GC missing boy translated

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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:29 pm

But if you ask that boy how he was raised, he will tell you it was with FULL love and honour.
He became a good family man, and he has a good job.
So Kurupetos does that make the Turks less humans than us??
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Postby T_C » Sat Aug 18, 2007 7:51 pm

kurupetos wrote:This is another example of the authoritarian regime that runs Turkey. We are in year 2007 with Turkey in the footstep of the EU but still it's the military that runs Turkey. What is the matter with Turkish people? It's time to revolt and establish democracy! Once again I am proud for not being a Turk.


The army is part of our Turkish culture though!!!!!!!

From the Mongol Empire, to the Ottomans and even the present Turkiye the army has played big role with Turks...the founder of Turkey was a soldier...why do people find this so hard to understand?

I accept things need to change but the army is always going to be a part of Turks...
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Postby kurupetos » Sat Aug 18, 2007 8:55 pm

So Kurupetos does that make the Turks less humans than us??



Did I say that they are less humans that us? :shock: :roll: They just need to wake up as the former communist east europe did some years ago. :P

The army is part of our Turkish culture though!!!!!!!

From the Mongol Empire, to the Ottomans and even the present Turkiye the army has played big role with Turks...the founder of Turkey was a soldier...why do people find this so hard to understand?

I accept things need to change but the army is always going to be a part of Turks...


It's time for change...We live in the 21st century :!: :wink:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Sat Aug 18, 2007 9:18 pm

turkish_cypriot wrote:
kurupetos wrote:This is another example of the authoritarian regime that runs Turkey. We are in year 2007 with Turkey in the footstep of the EU but still it's the military that runs Turkey. What is the matter with Turkish people? It's time to revolt and establish democracy! Once again I am proud for not being a Turk.


The army is part of our Turkish culture though!!!!!!!

From the Mongol Empire, to the Ottomans and even the present Turkiye the army has played big role with Turks...the founder of Turkey was a soldier...why do people find this so hard to understand?

I accept things need to change but the army is always going to be a part of Turks...


All that's needed is just ONE defeat then :wink:
And then everything will change...
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Postby BirKibrisli » Sun Aug 19, 2007 5:19 am

There is no simply solution to Turkey's problems.
As t-c said,Turkish republic was founded by the military really.And Ataturk has made a point of appointing the military the guardians of the secular and western turned republic...But the majority of the people are religious and eastern turned...This is the major fault line in the nation's psych...They have been pulled along in a direction which goes against their true nature...Ataturk's reforms,coming from top down,had really no chance of seeping into the people's consciousness in the available time...

So the West has to make a choice. A fully democratic Turkey would soon vote to become an Islamic Republic a la Iran...At this stage the military is the only thing standing in the way...In my opinion the West has no choice but to back the military and the Western oriented elite who are in the minority in Turkey....Unless you all want to wake up to an Islamic republic at your doorstep,open tio fanaticism and Islamic expansionism...I would take the partial democracy guarded by the Military any day...And if we could just convince them to leave Cyprus...my mind and heart would be at rest... :)
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Postby Kikapu » Sun Aug 19, 2007 11:08 am

I just had a good read from page one on this thread. As I said before, the truth has a way of coming out sometimes, and I believe, it has once again done that, with the case of this missing GC child.

I could write the whole movie script, as a novel on this boys life, but I have a feeling, the non fiction version will be equally sad and traumatic. The title could well be called "Lost in Transition".

I do expect a movie will be made on this "missing boys" life soon or later. I hope Oliver Stone gets involved in this story as in the movie "Midnight Express" on the life of Billy Hayes. Billy Hayes was recently allowed to visit Turkey again, after being banned from Turkey since the release of that movie back in 1978.

Sometimes there is a need to "let the sleeping dogs lie", but in this case, such actions would be criminal to say the least. As VP stated so accurately back in March on this thread, that this case would open a whole "can of worms" for Turkey, if the facts came out on whether the boy was dead or alive. I say let then come out.

So, where does Hakan/Christakis' goes from here, if the final proof with the DNA confirms positive. Talk about the ground shaking under his feet will be an understatement. To understand this just a little, we have to place ourselves in his shoes and walk a mile or two, which a lot of members on this Forum are unable to do most of the times, based on their views on the Cyprus Problems, which are the reasons as to why most of our endless arguments starts.

As in the recent case of a Aborigine who won a landmark court ruling in Australia because he and many others were removed as babies from their own people and "forced" to live like "white man", which meant the loss of his true Identity. Similar cases tend to happen around the world, so that the victims can be used as "Frankenstein Experimental Species". In the case of Hakan/Christakis', he is one more victim to this experiment, even though it may not have been Direct Involvement of the Turkish Government, but rather by one of her Citizens, but the results are the same, however.

I can see many dangers lying ahead for Hakan/Christakis' and his families (plural) in Turkey and Cyprus, both physically and mentally. Their whole world will be turned upside down, as soon as the DNA results come in and they are positive. I do not think he will be able to "just ignore" the results. I can write many predictions on him, but I will just wait for the book/movie to came out instead. The very first thing the RoC should do, is to grant him and his family Cypriot Citizenship with EU Passports to at least allow them the freedom to move anywhere they wish to within the EU, if their lives starts to get "complicated" where they live now.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:54 pm

Kikapu wrote:I just had a good read from page one on this thread. As I said before, the truth has a way of coming out sometimes, and I believe, it has once again done that, with the case of this missing GC child.

I could write the whole movie script, as a novel on this boys life, but I have a feeling, the non fiction version will be equally sad and traumatic. The title could well be called "Lost in Transition".

I do expect a movie will be made on this "missing boys" life soon or later. I hope Oliver Stone gets involved in this story as in the movie "Midnight Express" on the life of Billy Hayes. Billy Hayes was recently allowed to visit Turkey again, after being banned from Turkey since the release of that movie back in 1978.


I have just read in the Milliyet that the DNA tests have proved negative. Hakan is not Christaki.
Like all people with a heart I feel for the family. I do hope for a happy ending. What a puzzle.

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Sometimes there is a need to "let the sleeping dogs lie", but in this case, such actions would be criminal to say the least. As VP stated so accurately back in March on this thread, that this case would open a whole "can of worms" for Turkey, if the facts came out on whether the boy was dead or alive. I say let then come out.

So, where does Hakan/Christakis' goes from here, if the final proof with the DNA confirms positive. Talk about the ground shaking under his feet will be an understatement. To understand this just a little, we have to place ourselves in his shoes and walk a mile or two, which a lot of members on this Forum are unable to do most of the times, based on their views on the Cyprus Problems, which are the reasons as to why most of our endless arguments starts.

As in the recent case of a Aborigine who won a landmark court ruling in Australia because he and many others were removed as babies from their own people and "forced" to live like "white man", which meant the loss of his true Identity. Similar cases tend to happen around the world, so that the victims can be used as "Frankenstein Experimental Species". In the case of Hakan/Christakis', he is one more victim to this experiment, even though it may not have been Direct Involvement of the Turkish Government, but rather by one of her Citizens, but the results are the same, however.

I can see many dangers lying ahead for Hakan/Christakis' and his families (plural) in Turkey and Cyprus, both physically and mentally. Their whole world will be turned upside down, as soon as the DNA results come in and they are positive. I do not think he will be able to "just ignore" the results. I can write many predictions on him, but I will just wait for the book/movie to came out instead. The very first thing the RoC should do, is to grant him and his family Cypriot Citizenship with EU Passports to at least allow them the freedom to move anywhere they wish to within the EU, if their lives starts to get "complicated" where they live now.
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Postby denizaksulu » Sun Aug 19, 2007 12:55 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I just had a good read from page one on this thread. As I said before, the truth has a way of coming out sometimes, and I believe, it has once again done that, with the case of this missing GC child.

I could write the whole movie script, as a novel on this boys life, but I have a feeling, the non fiction version will be equally sad and traumatic. The title could well be called "Lost in Transition".

I do expect a movie will be made on this "missing boys" life soon or later. I hope Oliver Stone gets involved in this story as in the movie "Midnight Express" on the life of Billy Hayes. Billy Hayes was recently allowed to visit Turkey again, after being banned from Turkey since the release of that movie back in 1978.


I have just read in the Milliyet that the DNA tests have proved negative. Hakan is not Christaki.
Like all people with a heart I feel for the family. I do hope for a happy ending. What a puzzle.

Regards
DA
Sometimes there is a need to "let the sleeping dogs lie", but in this case, such actions would be criminal to say the least. As VP stated so accurately back in March on this thread, that this case would open a whole "can of worms" for Turkey, if the facts came out on whether the boy was dead or alive. I say let then come out.

So, where does Hakan/Christakis' goes from here, if the final proof with the DNA confirms positive. Talk about the ground shaking under his feet will be an understatement. To understand this just a little, we have to place ourselves in his shoes and walk a mile or two, which a lot of members on this Forum are unable to do most of the times, based on their views on the Cyprus Problems, which are the reasons as to why most of our endless arguments starts.

As in the recent case of a Aborigine who won a landmark court ruling in Australia because he and many others were removed as babies from their own people and "forced" to live like "white man", which meant the loss of his true Identity. Similar cases tend to happen around the world, so that the victims can be used as "Frankenstein Experimental Species". In the case of Hakan/Christakis', he is one more victim to this experiment, even though it may not have been Direct Involvement of the Turkish Government, but rather by one of her Citizens, but the results are the same, however.

I can see many dangers lying ahead for Hakan/Christakis' and his families (plural) in Turkey and Cyprus, both physically and mentally. Their whole world will be turned upside down, as soon as the DNA results come in and they are positive. I do not think he will be able to "just ignore" the results. I can write many predictions on him, but I will just wait for the book/movie to came out instead. The very first thing the RoC should do, is to grant him and his family Cypriot Citizenship with EU Passports to at least allow them the freedom to move anywhere they wish to within the EU, if their lives starts to get "complicated" where they live now.



I have just read in the Milliyet that the DNA tests have proved negative. Hakan is not Christaki.
Like all people with a heart I feel for the family. I do hope for a happy ending. What a puzzle.

Regards
DA
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Postby karma » Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:06 pm

denizaksulu wrote:
denizaksulu wrote:
Kikapu wrote:I just had a good read from page one on this thread. As I said before, the truth has a way of coming out sometimes, and I believe, it has once again done that, with the case of this missing GC child.

I could write the whole movie script, as a novel on this boys life, but I have a feeling, the non fiction version will be equally sad and traumatic. The title could well be called "Lost in Transition".

I do expect a movie will be made on this "missing boys" life soon or later. I hope Oliver Stone gets involved in this story as in the movie "Midnight Express" on the life of Billy Hayes. Billy Hayes was recently allowed to visit Turkey again, after being banned from Turkey since the release of that movie back in 1978.


I have just read in the Milliyet that the DNA tests have proved negative. Hakan is not Christaki.
Like all people with a heart I feel for the family. I do hope for a happy ending. What a puzzle.

Regards
DA
Sometimes there is a need to "let the sleeping dogs lie", but in this case, such actions would be criminal to say the least. As VP stated so accurately back in March on this thread, that this case would open a whole "can of worms" for Turkey, if the facts came out on whether the boy was dead or alive. I say let then come out.

So, where does Hakan/Christakis' goes from here, if the final proof with the DNA confirms positive. Talk about the ground shaking under his feet will be an understatement. To understand this just a little, we have to place ourselves in his shoes and walk a mile or two, which a lot of members on this Forum are unable to do most of the times, based on their views on the Cyprus Problems, which are the reasons as to why most of our endless arguments starts.

As in the recent case of a Aborigine who won a landmark court ruling in Australia because he and many others were removed as babies from their own people and "forced" to live like "white man", which meant the loss of his true Identity. Similar cases tend to happen around the world, so that the victims can be used as "Frankenstein Experimental Species". In the case of Hakan/Christakis', he is one more victim to this experiment, even though it may not have been Direct Involvement of the Turkish Government, but rather by one of her Citizens, but the results are the same, however.

I can see many dangers lying ahead for Hakan/Christakis' and his families (plural) in Turkey and Cyprus, both physically and mentally. Their whole world will be turned upside down, as soon as the DNA results come in and they are positive. I do not think he will be able to "just ignore" the results. I can write many predictions on him, but I will just wait for the book/movie to came out instead. The very first thing the RoC should do, is to grant him and his family Cypriot Citizenship with EU Passports to at least allow them the freedom to move anywhere they wish to within the EU, if their lives starts to get "complicated" where they live now.



I have just read in the Milliyet that the DNA tests have proved negative. Hakan is not Christaki.
Like all people with a heart I feel for the family. I do hope for a happy ending. What a puzzle.

Regards
DA


it must be a bad lie for the safety of Hakan and his family , and to defend some people from their lies in the past, I dont believe it..media is fooling again...these 2 photos say everything..I trust my eyes and my 6th sense.. :wink:
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Sun Aug 19, 2007 1:16 pm

Hi Karma. How are you?
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