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Postby boulio » Fri Jan 21, 2005 10:29 pm

piratis,

looking over that thread you had started at the end you show the constituion of the ROC,IS IT THE SAME as the 1960 constition and did the ROC ascede to the EU with it?
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Postby brother » Mon Jan 24, 2005 3:39 pm

No the ROC did not ascede to the E.U with the 1960 constitution.
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Postby turkcyp » Mon Jan 24, 2005 4:40 pm

brother wrote:No the ROC did not ascede to the E.U with the 1960 constitution.


I wish they did, because if that was the case then our rights from 1960 constitution would be sec ure at least. But....

Well the "Buts" are too many to count......
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Postby -mikkie2- » Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:11 pm

No the ROC did not ascede to the E.U with the 1960 constitution.


And what makes you say that brother? The RoC IS the 1960 constitution.
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Postby brother » Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:24 pm

mikkie if it was the 1960 constitution then there would be a tc vice president etc.
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Postby boulio » Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:28 pm

i think someone should really do research on the subject of what exactly the roc asceded with to the eu with.this can have major ramifications.
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Postby -mikkie2- » Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:29 pm

Yes, I know, but the TC's choose not to participate.

I wonder what would happen if all of a sudden the TC's said:

'We would like to re-enter the RoC and take part in its institutions as it is our right.'

Could the GC's say, no you can't? If anything that would put the cat amongst the pigeons don't you think?
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Postby brother » Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:35 pm

I hate to open old wounds but you stole the ROC by stopping the tc officials going to their offices and threatened them with their lives.

Whatever happened in the past is now history but do not suggest we can just stroll in and take of where we left from when the hellenic elite would not let that happen, also remember the current gc administration is only the caretaker goverment of the ROC and not the legitimate goverment of all the people of cyprus.
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Postby Alexandros Lordos » Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:36 pm

brother wrote:No the ROC did not ascede to the E.U with the 1960 constitution.


Brother, to be precise here, accession did take place under the 1960 Constitution. If you read the constitution of the RoC today, you will not find any significant deviations from the 1960 Constitution ... quite simply, the RoC in its everyday practice does not fully implement its own constitution. The way this is explained, and the way it is accepted internationally, is that it is impossible to apply the constitution fully because of force majeur. Therefore deviations guided by the need to continue everyday functioning are temporarily permitted.
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Postby Alexandros Lordos » Mon Jan 24, 2005 6:39 pm

brother wrote: also remember the current gc administration is only the caretaker goverment of the ROC and not the legitimate goverment of all the people of cyprus.


That's an interesting way of putting it - I have not heard it before but I have no objection with it. It tallies with what I said above about "temporary deviations because of extra-ordinary events"

What I like about the way you phrased it, is that it can point to a formula for the legal continuity of the RoC after the solution, a formula that might be acceptable to both sides - i.e. that since 1963, the GC administration has been the caretaker government of the RoC, which RoC never ceased to exist right up to the present day, and which RoC is now returning to normal functioning with a new Federal Constitution.
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