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Itentity Crisis...

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby Natty » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:24 am

What can I say? Of course I love Cyprus and I am a Cypriot, but what I'm saying is that I believe and feel that I have some Greek heritage which makes me similar to other people with Greek heritage, from all over not just from Greece, there are Greeks in Turkey and their used be many Greeks in Egypt, etc...I'm talking about feeling a connection with them not the country Greece..The country I feel connected to obviously is Cyprus, that is my homeland, that is where my ancestors have lived for thousands of years..you see?

I am a Greek Cypriot and I am proud of both my Cypriot and Greek heritage, but just because I feel like that doesn't make me want to hate the Turkish Cypriots, or not want to have Cyprus become one country. I don't look at the history of Greece and Turkey and the problems they have as my problems, I look at the problems of Cyprus and have hope that one day those problems will be no more!

Cyprus is Cyprus, a multicultural country and I can not wait for the day that barrier comes down and we can live as one again!

(Trying to define identity is rather difficult isn't it? So I'm just going to stop now, I've said what I wanted to say..;))

@ Venizelist, I believe there is a Kypriako Zembekiko, which is slightly different than the standard Greek Zembekiko, but your right anyone can dance the Zembekiko, even people who can't dance..it's just about feeling it! That's the most important thing...

The other dance you will see people dancing alone is the Zembekiko, or drunkard's dance. This also has no specific steps, but involves stumbling around precariously to the rhythm of the music. In the Zembekiko you will see several dancers down on one knee clapping around a particular dancer, and then they'll trade off. There are no rules. You can dance alone or you can join the clapping for someone else. As long as you're having fun, you're doing just fine.

Now go out and hit the dance floor. Opa!


(These are three different versions of Greek Zembekiko,..and I also found a film of a traditional Cypriot dance Datsia I believe, you've got to love youtube... :wink: )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=xRzLKVbj ... ed&search=

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bAzIn4dWyWk

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=yQ5DyG6crrA

(I put this one up because I like the music.. :lol: )

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Gc0uN7Y6XX0

(These guys are pretty good..and yes there is liquid in those glasses...;))

@Kikapu... Kikapu, Kikapu, Kikapu.....(nothing else just that... :) )

@Miltiades, I agree very much with what you wrote..

@ReportfromCyprus, I also agree with what you wrote..(especially the fabulous bit.. 8) :lol: )

@DT, and of course I agree with you wrote... :wink:

@Everyone else who replied, the Cypriot, Get Real, Turkish Cypriot, Karma, Free-Cyprus, and anyone else that I've accidentally missed out, thanks for your replies it's nice to read people's different opinions.
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Postby free_cyprus » Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:30 pm

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We're proud of our Greek ethnic backgrounds

everything about you is greek nothing about you is cypriot apart from the fact you might live there you moron.................................do you think when i call most cypriots moron do you think i use the word likely i do not not only they do not know their identity but they know how to devide and our people just as you done by your reply to me. i might not be able to spell but thats ok you dont seem to have aproblem understanding hat i wrote. i write things here to enlighten people about cyprus im not here to make friends.

tell me if im wrong 99% of cypriots are tyke's and boor's ....................... DT you are sooo educated i bet you dont even know what the word tyke or boor means look it up in the dictionary i think i spelt them right lol
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Mar 10, 2007 2:56 pm

Natty wrote:
@Kikapu... Kikapu, Kikapu, Kikapu.....(nothing else just that... :) )



I only gave you 3 Nattys', but you gave me back 4 Kikapus'. :!:

Does that mean you like me just that little bit more than I like you, or what. :lol: :lol: :lol: ........ :lol: .
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Postby karma » Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:00 pm

Kikapu wrote:
Natty wrote:
@Kikapu... Kikapu, Kikapu, Kikapu.....(nothing else just that... :) )



I only gave you 3 Nattys', but you gave me back 4 Kikapus'. :!:

Does that mean you like me just that little bit more than I like you, or what. :lol: :lol: :lol: ........ :lol: .


I AM NOT PLANNING TO SHARE MY CHOCOLATES WITH NATTY TOO :evil:
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Postby free_cyprus » Sat Mar 10, 2007 3:02 pm

Natty
your greek through and through dont let them tell you otherwise since you yourself proclaim to be greek then you must be greek
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Postby michalis5354 » Sat Mar 10, 2007 4:30 pm

Natty yu seem so confused . You need to choose which one of the 4 nationalities you belong to(a) British (b) Greek (c) Cypriot (d) Turkish? You can not be all of them at the same time.

I am also Cypriot and I also like Garlic this does not mean I am asian-Cypriot.

It is very simple it is written on your passport /identity card.

Turkey policies on Cyprus has always been that there is no Cypriot nation and the ones who tend to argue along these lines they do nothing more than supporting Turkish official guidelines.
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Postby Natty » Sat Mar 10, 2007 9:48 pm

Oh dear...it seems people are getting confused about what I'm saying...

I never ever ever ever said I wasn't' Cypriot and that I wasn't' proud of that! I just said what I felt my Cypriot heritage was to me, and how I feel connected with Greeks from all over as well as my fellow Cypriots, the Turkish Cypriots and of course other Cypriots. I am in no way agreeing with the Turkish Policy on Cyprus. I feel like people are putting things in my mouth that I haven't said. This is what I mean when I talk about people imposing ideologies on others and of people perhaps not respecting how others feel. Why must people always find something sinister in everything..I'm not some crazed gun weilding Nationalist who wants only the pure 'Greek race' to live in Cyprus and no others, and that Cyprus is only Greek, and all others are just immigrants from far off lands that don't belong there and have no right to call themselves Cypriots. (And I believe people on this forum who have known me for quite a while will be able to vouch for me on that...well I hope they will anyway... :lol: ).

I'll say it loud and clear, I support the unification of Cyprus, and the coming together of all Cypriots, where there is no discrimination. Now does that make me a 'Non Cypriot'? Because if that does, I honestly can't imagine what a being a 'True Cypriot' must entail...:?

I am what I am, a proud British Greek Cypriot, and I'm sorry if some do not agree that that is how I should feel, I suppose that is what this forum is about, disagreeing and agreeing and discussing different issues.. :)

Anyway, enough of the serious business, my heads spinning a little! :oops:

@Kikapu, you know, I didn't actually think about it when I wrote in that extra Kikapu, but I think you are right, I think that on some subconscious level I probably included an extra one because I do like you that little bit extra...although what does that say about how much you like me I wonder? A measly three...Hmmm.... :? :lol:
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Sat Mar 10, 2007 10:42 pm

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Postby Natty » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:42 pm

GAVCARoCOM wrote::?:


:lol: :lol:

Have I confused you GAVCARoCOM? Don't worry I think I've confused myself as well... :oops: :lol:
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Postby The Cypriot » Sat Mar 10, 2007 11:55 pm

Natty wrote: I am what I am, a proud British Greek Cypriot


Bill Hicks (RIP), a visionary comedian, was once asked if he was proud to be an American. His response: "Well, I didn't have a lot to do with it... I mean, my parents f****d there."

By dropping a politically, ethnically and historically incorrect prefix you'll be making a conscious and public investment in the future of a reunified Cyprus. Then you - and others like you on both sides of the divide - really will have something to be proud of.
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