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Postby zan » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:40 pm

karma wrote:Zan , u r surprising me with ur poems, I shld have thought this poem style postings long back, it is really coooll..
whose ur fav. poet ? do u like Nazim?



Thanks Karma for your kind comments. I am actually new to this poetry thing so I don't know many poets. I don't really know if I even like poetry but I seem to be able to write it. I started my first poem when my two sons were getting restless in the back of the car on a long journey and I came up with a line of poetry and asked them to carry it on. They, of course, had no interest so I carried it on while they listened. When I was finished I thought to my self, arrogantly, Hey, I'm not bad at this and so I wrote some more. Now I have a couple of my very thin books (that I printed at home) in my sons school library. Before then I only liked silly poems like that of Spike Milligan but since I have started to write on these forums Alexios has introduced me to Orhan Velli Kanik and found out that we write in a similar style......When I get it right that is. Now you have introduced me to Nazim and I will read some of his work so thank you.


http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~sibel/poetry/orhan_veli.html



My first poem: I like to make my poems educational for my boys but fun so they learn without knowing it. The oldest was doing work on the cycle of water at school so that and the fact we were off to the seaside brought this to mind.


The Sea
by Zan

Before the sea became the sea

I wonder what it used to be

A raindrop falling out the sky

Smiling at others passing by

Landing on a mountain high

And rolling, flowing into a stream

Making dry lands evergreen.


Past the towns and then the cities

On its journey ever down

Building homes for all the fishes

Making sure they never drown

Then to the place it likes to be

Floating freely as a sea

With great patience it has to wait

For its time to evaporate

And once again to climb on high

As clouds of raindrops blowing by.
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Postby zan » Mon Mar 12, 2007 10:43 pm

As to to the rest that asked why I wrote that poem against bir........Pyro use your detective skills and see who used the word Treason first......Let me know. :roll:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:28 pm

Birkibrisli's reference to treason was for the newly born republic and legal order. Your reference to treason was for nationalistic reasons for supposely him embracing the Greek flag instead of the Turkish flag. Do you see the difference? Do you understand who the REAL traitor is?

NB. I hope you understand Birkibrisli's reference to treason was not just to TCs.
Even your poems show what you are.
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Postby zan » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:33 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:Birkibrisli's reference to treason was to the newly born republic and legal order. Your reference to treasons was for nationalistic reasons for supposely him embracing the Greek flag instead of the Turkish flag. Do you see the difference? Do you understand who the REAL traitor is here?

NB. I hope you understand Birkibrisli's reference to treason was not just referring to TCs.
Even your poems show what you are.



I hope my poems show who I am Pyro. 8)


In a free world If he has the right to use such words then so do I. If he wants a Cyprus where only his word is king then I don't want to be part of it. You and he are supposed to be offering me something better than I already have. :roll:
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Postby Pyrpolizer » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:39 pm

It's getting more and more difficult to get anything logical to you. You are making me react in a way I don't like...
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Postby zan » Mon Mar 12, 2007 11:41 pm

Pyrpolizer wrote:It's getting more and more difficult to get anything logical to you. You are making me react in a way I don't like...



Know how you feel.......
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Postby BirKibrisli » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:07 am

I wish words didn't hurt dear Zan
But they do,they turn everthing blue
Blue as in the flag you mention which
is the proud symbol of a proud nation like ours

I wish tears would stop dear Zan
and children learn to love each other
instead of perpetuating the ugly hatred
which poisoned our best childhood days

I wish people would see the truth dear Zan
and bells of peace ring in young heads
instead of empty and bloody slogans
learned at the knee of hate mongers

I wish you put your talents to good use dear Zan
and emrace our other half even if
you think they do not want to love you
as you have been told by the carking old Grey Wolf...
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Postby LENA » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:31 am

LENA wrote:
zan wrote:
You decide to play the host

To those that did us harm

But you will walk arm in arm

With those that did us harm

And harm your brothers still

Because you don’t see how they really feel



Zan will you explain me those lines please? Who are those who did you harm and how they really feel?????


I want an answer Zan!
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Postby LENA » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:33 am

Birkibrisli wrote:I wish words didn't hurt dear Zan
But they do,they turn everthing blue
Blue as in the flag you mention which
is the proud symbol of a proud nation like ours

I wish tears would stop dear Zan
and children learn to love each other
instead of perpetuating the ugly hatred
which poisoned our best childhood days


I wish people would see the truth dear Zan
and bells of peace ring in young heads
instead of empty and bloody slogans
learned at the knee of hate mongers

I wish you put your talents to good use dear Zan
and emrace our other half even if
you think they do not want to love you
as you have been told by the carking old Grey Wolf...


Well said Birkibrisli!!!
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Postby karma » Tue Mar 13, 2007 3:49 am

zan wrote:
karma wrote:Zan , u r surprising me with ur poems, I shld have thought this poem style postings long back, it is really coooll..
whose ur fav. poet ? do u like Nazim?



Thanks Karma for your kind comments. I am actually new to this poetry thing so I don't know many poets. I don't really know if I even like poetry but I seem to be able to write it. I started my first poem when my two sons were getting restless in the back of the car on a long journey and I came up with a line of poetry and asked them to carry it on. They, of course, had no interest so I carried it on while they listened. When I was finished I thought to my self, arrogantly, Hey, I'm not bad at this and so I wrote some more. Now I have a couple of my very thin books (that I printed at home) in my sons school library. Before then I only liked silly poems like that of Spike Milligan but since I have started to write on these forums Alexios has introduced me to Orhan Velli Kanik and found out that we write in a similar style......When I get it right that is. Now you have introduced me to Nazim and I will read some of his work so thank you.


http://www.cs.rpi.edu/~sibel/poetry/orhan_veli.html



My first poem: I like to make my poems educational for my boys but fun so they learn without knowing it. The oldest was doing work on the cycle of water at school so that and the fact we were off to the seaside brought this to mind.


The Sea
by Zan

Before the sea became the sea

I wonder what it used to be

A raindrop falling out the sky

Smiling at others passing by

Landing on a mountain high

And rolling, flowing into a stream

Making dry lands evergreen.


Past the towns and then the cities

On its journey ever down

Building homes for all the fishes

Making sure they never drown

Then to the place it likes to be

Floating freely as a sea

With great patience it has to wait

For its time to evaporate

And once again to climb on high

As clouds of raindrops blowing by.


Nice 1, Orhan Veli is 1 of my fav too, he is simple and natural..
As for Nazim Hikmet , I suggest u to buy the book, instead of internet sites..he is 1 of the best...and if u wana check love poems from greek side :wink: then try Sapho....she is cool too..
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