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[zan]

Anyway Greece and Cyprus are two different independent countries. I believe that the way Greece is acting now is actually helping Cyprus more than if it was ivolved actively into the Cyprus affairs. It is the first time in history that we Cypriots have the chance of a truly independent state.

And we all believe that, don't we boys and girls?????????

I can understand your disbelief as you have learned always to be dependent from mother turkey and you were raised with imperialistic ideals that make it impossible for you to understand that Greece does not have any overruling desire over Cyprus.

Close cousins is good enough ay!

[Strahd]

Greek Cypriots and Greeks are close cousins as you put it. However Greece has nothing to do with the policies of the RoC. Greece has no say on what we do anymore and Greece has helped to that by not beeing a mother state to the RoC for a large number of years. This policy has actually been a factor for some Cypriots to "hate" Greece. However now it shows that this policy has actually helped the RoC to become an adult. We do not need mothers anymore!

I will also remind you the position of the Greek government to the Annan plan.

However it is you the Turkish Cypriots who need to actively show that Turkey has no input in your decisions. Until now you have failed miserably.

[pitsilos]

I rather be a close cousin than close to a pimp

[humanist]

Guys you forget that Cretans are actually Greek, they live on a greek island.

[zan]

Greek Cypriots and Greeks are close cousins as you put it. However Greece has nothing to do with the policies of the RoC. Greece has no say on what we do anymore and Greece has helped to that by not beeing a mother state to the RoC for a large number of years. This policy has actually been a factor for some Cypriots to "hate" Greece. However now it shows that this policy has actually helped the RoC to become an adult. We do not need mothers anymore!

I will also remind you the position of the Greek government to the Annan plan.

However it is you the Turkish Cypriots who need to actively show that Turkey has no input in your decisions. Until now you have failed miserably.

Perception is all when it comes to relations with Greece.

I think you are asking me to believe a little too much with regards to anything else though.

[Strahd]

Guys you forget that Cretans are actually Greek, they live on a greek island.

Crete was independent and became part of Greece in the same mechanism that Cyprus would have become... Crete also had a Turkish community from the time of the ottoman empire similar to the TCs. However due to political reasons the great powers of the time did not allow this as Greece did not involve in WW1. Learn your history Humanist, you will be amazed how similar Cyprus is to most islands of the modern Hellenic sate.

Cypriots are by 80% Greeks as well, however we are lucky to have our own independent country

One more thing did you know that the Nazis before conquering Crete wanted to make the HQ of Greek administration in Cyprus? Even them they understood the ethnical connection of the Cypriots and the rest of the Greeks.

[humanist]

I am not suggesting that there are no similarities what I am saying is that Cyprus is now an occupied independent nation what an oximoron that is, whereas crete is an island of Greece, I could probably learn a little more history though in my life I choose to learn other stuff. in a future life i may choose to come back as a history teacher who knows

[Get Real!]

Hi. I am a Greek from Greece and from what i'm reading from these forums so far, many Greek Cypriots here claim they have nothing to do with Greece and some even hate Greece. If a thread like this has already been made then I am sorry but I was just wondering... Do you Greek Cypriots hate Greece?

If Greece cannot even defend one of her undisputed rocks in the Aegean (the little island of Imia) what chances does she have of defending the comparatively huge and challenging Cyprus situated just 40 miles South of Turkish shores?

No... There are no more Greek illusions here in Cyprus except maybe in the minds of the few mythological dreamers. Fare thee well Greece...

[askimwos]

Guys you forget that Cretans are actually Greek, they live on a greek island.

Crete was independent and became part of Greece in the same mechanism that Cyprus would have become... Crete also had a Turkish community from the time of the ottoman empire similar to the TCs. However due to political reasons the great powers of the time did not allow this as Greece did not involve in WW1. Learn your history Humanist, you will be amazed how similar Cyprus is to most islands of the modern Hellenic sate.

Cypriots are by 80% Greeks as well, however we are lucky to have our own independent country

One more thing did you know that the Nazis before conquering Crete wanted to make the HQ of Greek administration in Cyprus? Even them they understood the ethnical connection of the Cypriots and the rest of the Greeks.

Btw Crete was never independent so check your history knowledge before accusing someone not knowing his history.
Another inacuracy: Greece took part in WW1

I still believe what I said: If you ask GCs about their identity 30% or even more will respond just Cypriot. All depends on how you ask the question in a poll, for example here are two cases on how one can distort figures:

Example 1

Do you consider your self to be:

a) Greek
b) Greek Cypriot
c) Turk
d) Turkish Cypriot
e) Cypriot


Example 2

What is your nationality? or What is your national identity?


Now which question is biased and will yield distorded figures?

[askimwos]

Greek Cypriots and Greeks are close cousins as you put it. However Greece has nothing to do with the policies of the RoC. Greece has no say on what we do anymore and Greece has helped to that by not beeing a mother state to the RoC for a large number of years. This policy has actually been a factor for some Cypriots to "hate" Greece. However now it shows that this policy has actually helped the RoC to become an adult. We do not need mothers anymore!

I will also remind you the position of the Greek government to the Annan plan.

However it is you the Turkish Cypriots who need to actively show that Turkey has no input in your decisions. Until now you have failed miserably.

Perception is all when it comes to relations with Greece.

I think you are asking me to believe a little too much with regards to anything else though.

Zan, what people are saying about Greece and Cyprus being two different countries without interfering with the issues of each other is true.
Greece has stopped interfering with RoC internal and external affairs long ago. There are 3 reasons why this happened:

a) The last time they did this it ended to disaster

b) GCs learned their lessons and don't tolerate this any more.

c) The biggest "weapon" in RoC armoury is that RoC is a recognised independent country and any intervention from another country weakens this "weapon"