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Postby karma » Fri May 11, 2007 8:59 pm

Nikephoros wrote:They should not be in Greece at all. The Greek loser politicans never set up an immigration policy based on the needs of Greek business and society. The Greek government never requested or set up quotas of how many immigrants each country could send to Greece. Instead Greece received illegal immigration and the Greek government ignores their illegal acts. If Greece sets up a sane immigration system only non-muslim immigrants should ever be allowed in. There is no reason for Greece to ever accept the hostile Islamic civilization into its borders. It is bad enough to have the hostile muslim Turkish state as a neighbor...


U R POLITICAL INCORRECT AND I AM AMNESTY INTERNATIONAL MEMBER..
SO, stop posting sick comments here coz they make me sick..
U Greek immigrant in USA...
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Postby Nikephoros » Fri May 11, 2007 9:14 pm

Is that supposed to be another insult?

I wager you are another of those sad half-Turks, half-Greeks with a conflicted identity.
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Postby Nikephoros » Fri May 11, 2007 9:17 pm

alexISS wrote:And I spoke about preservation, not translation

Again more from Vryonis who actually has expertise in this area:

http://archaeology.kiev.ua/pub/vryonis.htm

"In order to comprehend the nature of Byzantium as a world civilization we must broadly sketch the map of its diffusion and the processes by which its civilization expanded and influenced other societies and peoples. The culture of Byzantium was hybrid in its development, being formed about the axes of ancient Greek language, literature, philosophy, science, medicine, art, and education. Its politico-legal institutions represent a fusion of Hellenistic and Roman ingredients. The second element, and it remains fundamental, was Judaic monotheism, which formed the basis of the Greek Orthodox Church. The Greek tradition was maintained in Byzantium from the time that its capital was built in Constantinople in 324-330 until the conquest of that city by the Ottomans in 1453. The heritage of Greek learning and letters was perpetuated through a system of education that emerged from the Greek world in late antiquity and which was crystallized in Alexandria. This educational system was spread throughout the empire, and the representatives of local urban, provincial, and central government were largely trained in this system. The school curriculum thus guaranteed the survival of the kernel of the Greek authors and texts: Homer, many of the lyric poets, the dramatists, historians, philosophers, mathematicians, physicians, and scientists. Only that part of the classical heritage survived which had been incorporated into the school textbooks. This remained the basis of education in Byzantium until the Ottoman conquest."
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Postby karma » Fri May 11, 2007 9:19 pm

Nikephoros wrote:Is that supposed to be another insult?

I wager you are another of those sad half-Turks, half-Greeks with a conflicted identity.


As an Greek immagrant U r not supposed to insult other immagrants..coz it is a shame...Greek Gov is doing its best to help all those poor people..
I m not trying to insult u, but my grandparents were immagrants too and I know what it means...
I dont wana talk to u anymore coz I dont think I can learn anything from a heartless person like u..
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Postby T_C » Fri May 11, 2007 9:24 pm

Nikephoros wrote:Is that supposed to be another insult?

I wager you are another of those sad half-Turks, half-Greeks with a conflicted identity.


And you are nothing but a Greek poking his nose where it's not wanted. You talk about human rights like Greece is so good at implementing them :roll:

As far as you're concerned you and everything you do are the best, everything which doesn't have a relation to Greeks is crap. You are one of those that spends too much time concerning yourself with other peoples problems and ignoring your own faults. In turn you make yourself look pretty arrogant and stupid hence why no one takes you seriously....and even the ones that do wouldn't admit it....
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Postby Nikephoros » Fri May 11, 2007 9:24 pm

Greek immigrants to the USA came under a quota allotted to Greece from the American immigration authorities for Greeks to apply for immigration. The Greek newspaper writers in Greece say many stupid things about the history of Greek immigration; do not believe their unresearched bullshit.

The immigration to Greece came when the irresponsible Greek elites failed to protect the borders and let anyone in Iraq, Afghanistan, Pakistan, Albania literally walk right through the alleged "borders" of the Greek state and do whatever they wanted.
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Postby Nikephoros » Fri May 11, 2007 9:26 pm

turkish_cypriot wrote:And you are nothing but a Greek poking his nose where it's not wanted. You talk about human rights like Greece is so good at implementing them :roll:

As far as you're concerned you and everything you do are the best, everything which doesn't have a relation to Greeks is crap. You are one of those that spends too much time concerning yourself with other peoples problems and ignoring your own faults. In turn you make yourself look pretty arrogant and stupid hence why no one takes you seriously....and even the ones that do don't admit it....


I will say it again and again:

TURKS and other MUSLIMS stay out of human rights. You have nothing even to do with respecting or implementing these concepts. You only concern yourself for human rights in front of the kuffars.
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Postby T_C » Fri May 11, 2007 9:38 pm

Nikephoros wrote:
turkish_cypriot wrote:And you are nothing but a Greek poking his nose where it's not wanted. You talk about human rights like Greece is so good at implementing them :roll:

As far as you're concerned you and everything you do are the best, everything which doesn't have a relation to Greeks is crap. You are one of those that spends too much time concerning yourself with other peoples problems and ignoring your own faults. In turn you make yourself look pretty arrogant and stupid hence why no one takes you seriously....and even the ones that do don't admit it....


I will say it again and again:

TURKS and other MUSLIMS stay out of human rights. You have nothing even to do with respecting or implementing these concepts. You only concern yourself for human rights in front of the kuffars.


I rest my case! Get a life mate. How old are you? You sound like you're well over a 100 and quite bitter...

What the f*** is a kuffar anyways? :roll:
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Postby Nikephoros » Fri May 11, 2007 9:47 pm

You know what I say.

Why debate with Turks on human rights. We should only debate with Turks that in Lausane they underwrote to protect a Greek minority. The Turkish state with its deliberate policies along with the intolerance of Kemalists and Islamists has reduced this minority to 1,000-2,500 members. Further Greeks should use this an argument to instead of argue over human rights with Turks and waste time, introduce the concept of dialectics: Greece will only respect the rights of the muslim minority in a proportion to how much Turkey respects Greek Orthodox. That way modern Greece can set a world example of how to properly handle muslims and especially Turks.
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Postby pappy_sydney » Sat May 12, 2007 11:50 pm

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askimwos said

"Unlike you I have no problem with people calling themselves GC or TC as long as they consider theselves Cypriots FIRST and do not go on nationalistic rampages as you do."


And I have no problem with people calling themselves Cypriot. Its the context thats important..If you say you are Cypriot to deny you are a Greek than thats a problem, shows you dont know your'e own identity and are confused. If you mean Cypriot in the sense that you are proud of where you are from like a Cretan is proud of where they are from then thats fine. We Cypriots love saying we are Cypriot but we are also proud to say we are Hellenes or Greek too ie. Greek Cypriot........This is nothing to do with nationalistic rampages....
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