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Postby Nikephoros » Fri May 11, 2007 8:34 pm

karma wrote:I am Greek and I prefer living in Greece instead of USA...but not a fascist 1 like u...The Turkish Gov. has violated the Greek Minority rights like helll...but it doesnt mean I should admire George Papdopoulos or His follower Christodoulos..


You sound very Turkish for a Greek. I never see Turks defending the rights of Greeks or Greece much on the internet.
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Postby karma » Fri May 11, 2007 8:37 pm

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karma wrote:I am Greek and I prefer living in Greece instead of USA...but not a fascist 1 like u...The Turkish Gov. has violated the Greek Minority rights like helll...but it doesnt mean I should admire George Papdopoulos or His follower Christodoulos..


You sound very Turkish for a Greek. I never see Turks defending the rights of Greeks or Greece much on the internet.


Never say never.. I only defend the rights...doesnt matter Turks or Greece or Cypriots...
And since I have lived in both countries I know the things better than U..
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Postby alexISS » Fri May 11, 2007 8:37 pm

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karma wrote:it is such a big lie..how many times have u ever been all those places??
I have never heard or read or guided tht they were built by pro-Turks..and I have seen almost every Greek temple in Turkey...
But I still cant see aqny mosque in Athens...
U r trying to provoke...and I dont know wht u wana get...
such a brainwashed guy..pity..


Not pro-Turks, P R O T O - T U R K S!
And who have you heard them attributing the monuments to?


U CAN DEBATE WITH ME ONLY AFTER THE FIRST AND UNIQUE MOSQUE IS BUILT IN ATHENS..and only when u become an antikeimenikos guy..
Till then Ta Leme..


There is no native muslim population in Athens, only muslim immigrants. There are many mosques in Thrace however. Turkey, on the other hand, shut down Churches that were there before the Turks came and now has converted them to museums, fashion catwalks and stables. And trust me, I can stand the blow of not debating with you from now on...
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Postby alexISS » Fri May 11, 2007 8:40 pm

Nikephoros wrote:Alexiss you have no idea what you are talking about.

From the very quote I gave:
"Here we are speaking of what has been termed Syrian Hellenism. The Syriac-speaking Christians, both Monophysites and Nestorians, had long ago adopted the curriculum of the late Greek schools of Alexandria, so that the study of Greek, Aristotle, Plato, Porphyry, Homer, and other authors remained standard in many of the schools in the very lands of the caliphate. Medicine had long been a monopoly of the Syriac Christians, and it was they who played the major role in the translation of the Greek texts, often via Syriac, into Arabic."

The very quote I sent says that it was the conquered Christians who translated the texts to Arabic. These Christians were part of Rhomaion civilization(Byzantine) before the muslim Arabs who had nothing to with this civilization ever invaded and destroyed the bulk of the Rhomaion civilization that was a more direct inheritor or Hellas and Rome.


And I spoke about preservation, not translation
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Postby Nikephoros » Fri May 11, 2007 8:40 pm

karma wrote:
Never say never.. I only defend the rights...doesnt matter Turks or Greece or Cypriots...
And since I have lived in both countries I know the things better than U..


You know nothing. You cannot even understand or respect the basic rules of debate or argument.

Turks have nothing to do with human rights or respecting human rights; human rights are a European Christian created notion by Enlightenment philosophers. Greeks can only waste time to debate with Turks about human rights, since the Kemalist/Islamist civilization of Turks has nothing to do with human rights or its implementation. When a Turk proves he really respects human rights, then an exception should be made for this solitary Turk. But the Turks as a people, as a nation, only use human rights to defend Turkishness abroad.
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Postby alexISS » Fri May 11, 2007 8:42 pm

I'm sorry Nikephoros, we will have to agree to disagree on the subject of the Muslims' contribution to the world, I do not feel comfortable comparing religions
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Postby karma » Fri May 11, 2007 8:43 pm

alexISS wrote:There is no native muslim population in Athens, only muslim immigrants. There are many mosques in Thrace however. Turkey, on the other hand, shut down Churches that were there before the Turks came and now has converted them to museums, fashion catwalks and stables. And trust me, I can stand the blow of not debating with you from now on...


so smart!! so why Pakistanis or Iraqies who live in Athens shld be responsible for Turkish Gov. faults??
yeah we better stop here..
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Postby alexISS » Fri May 11, 2007 8:46 pm

karma wrote:
alexISS wrote:There is no native muslim population in Athens, only muslim immigrants. There are many mosques in Thrace however. Turkey, on the other hand, shut down Churches that were there before the Turks came and now has converted them to museums, fashion catwalks and stables. And trust me, I can stand the blow of not debating with you from now on...


so smart!! so why Pakistanis or Iraqies who live in Athens shld be responsible for Turkish Gov. faults??
yeah we better stop here..
kali nixta


You don't want to debate with me anymore or you just want the last word? :lol:
Besides, a mosque is being built as we speak, I wonder if the same would have happened in Iraq if, for some reason, Greeks were immigrating there
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Postby Nikephoros » Fri May 11, 2007 8:47 pm

They should not be in Greece at all. The Greek loser politicans never set up an immigration policy based on the needs of Greek business and society. The Greek government never requested or set up quotas of how many immigrants each country could send to Greece. Instead Greece received illegal immigration and the Greek government ignores their illegal acts. If Greece sets up a sane immigration system only non-muslim immigrants should ever be allowed in. There is no reason for Greece to ever accept the hostile Islamic civilization into its borders. It is bad enough to have the hostile muslim Turkish state as a neighbor...
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Postby TOTIS MILIOTIS » Fri May 11, 2007 8:56 pm

My dear friend , (I understand That you are PANATHINAIKOS)

Greek Cypriots, at list the majority of them, will never ask your licence to declare themselves as Greeks, for the simple reason that they feel much better and original Greeks than you are.

Rgds from Athens
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