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[Natty]

Come on, lets not start insulting both countries....

I think I speak for most Greek Cypriots when I say, we don't hate Greece, but we are an independent country just trying to bring our people together...

I have not insulted Greek Cypriots or Cyprus, but there is at least one insulting post to Greece in every single thread in this forum. Noone is questioning Cyprus's independence, maybe there are some who miss the british rule but fortunately they are too few to matter. It's also wrong what some believe, that Cyprus would be where she is today without Greece. I'm sorry, but Cyprus would not only be out of the EU, she would not exist as a state if she was left alone to face an enemy like Turkey

Hi Alexiss, I meant that we should stop insulting both Greece and Cyprus...As far as I know An extremist minority in Greece (The Junta) and an extremist minority in Cyprus (EOKA B who worked with the Junta and coincidently the CIA) caused havoc in Cyprus and Gave Turkey the pre-text it wanted to invade and partition the Island, also as far as I know, these extremist minorities did not represent the vast majority of Greeks or Greek Cypriots...

(I have to say, I don’t really know about Greece’s involvement today in Cyprus's issues, but I do know a little about past involvement…)

[alexISS]

Hi Alexiss, I meant that we should stop insulting both Greece and Cyprus...As far as I know An extremist minority in Greece (The Junta) and an extremist minority in Cyprus (EOKA B who worked with the Junta and coincidently the CIA) caused havoc in Cyprus and Gave Turkey the pre-text it wanted to invade and partition the Island, also as far as I know, these extremist minorities did not represent the vast majority of Greeks or Greek Cypriots...

(I have to say, I don’t really know about Greece’s involvement today in Cyprus's issues, but I do know a little about past involvement…)

Hello Natty, thank you, what you know is what happened

[askimwos]

http://www.cyprus.gov.cy/moi/pio/pio.nsf/All/5947DC27D71D3B0AC22571B200258060?Opendocument&print

Το άλλοθι για την Τουρκία να εισβάλει στην Κύπρο δόθηκε από το προδοτικό πραξικόπημα της χούντας των Αθηνών και της ΕΟΚΑ Β’ που διενεργήθηκε ενάντια στη νόμιμη Κυβέρνηση Μακαρίου, πέντε μέρες νωρίτερα. Το πραξικόπημα και η εισβολή δεν προέκυψαν ξαφνικά ούτε και ήταν μια στιγμιαία πράξη μερικών ανεγκέφαλων. Ήταν αποτέλεσμα σχεδιασμών που για χρόνια προετοιμάζονταν σε εχθρικά για την Κύπρο κέντρα, με βασικό στόχο τη διχοτόμηση της Κυπριακής Δημοκρατίας.

I know this particular politician is not the smartest there is, but he has to be smarter than you since you voted for him...

You are such a smartass, aren't you alexISS? Could you please show me a post where I said that the invation wouldn't have happened if the coup did not take place? Both me and a number of people here very clearly pointed out that Turkey only needed an excuse to invate. If the coup didn't happen then possibly Turkey would have found another excuse....maybe another bomb set by TMT thugs against TCs in order to blame GCs. However, the above gives absolutely NO justification for another country, in this case Greece, to intervene and try to despose the elected president of another independent country.

Your stupid big Greek ego and nationalism seems to be bluring your way of thinking mate! I have never said that I hate Greeks and in fact I have stated many times that GCs in their vast majority do not hate the Greek people. However, if one takes your views as representing the public opinion in Greece, I wouldn't be surprised if more and more people start to have negative feeling about Greek people.
Every single post of yours is full of arrogance, twisted pride about Greece and what it represents, not to mention your obvious lack of respect for the Cypriot people and your patronising behaviour. Do you read what you are actually posting here?

- Cyprus would be nothing without Greece
- Greece is not responsible an for what happened in Cyprus
- Cyprus would have been in the middle ages without Greece
- Hadn't been for Greece defending Cyprus, Cypriots would have been speaking Turkish
- Cypriots are all to blame about what happened in the past
- ........

Well the reality is

- Greece never defended Cyprus and will never be able to do so - Cypriots know this very well
- Greece is an independent country and quite rightly will seek to defend its people first and not Cyprus
- Greece, among other, is responsible for what happened in Cyprus
- The Cypriot economy did not develop because of Greece
- The trade balance between Greece and Cyprus has always favoured Greece so if one benefits more from this is surely the Greek economy

[miltiades]

Excellent post. I have always believed that the Mainland Greeks ought to have been out en mass demonstrating and urging their government to seek Enosis with Cyprus not the other way around . We would of course reject them . Their influence on Cyprus is detrimental to the well being of our people. Their TV shows are full of chain smoking overdressed unsophisticated dyed hair blondes puffing away and encouraging all those naive watchers to join them in singing the praise of the cancer stick.
The Cyprus economy is doing well and will continue to do so with or without influence from Greece . Our motherland , Cyprus , deserves the opportunity to stand and be counted as an independent progressive nation .
And another thing , do they have "Charlies" in Greece !! I bet not !
ps. Did you know that many people in the UK are addicted to us Charlies ? especialy the posh lot , they just love a Charlie !

Well I've seen thousands of Greek flags in Cyprus, can't say I've seen any Cypriot flags in Greece. That makes clear who is after union with whom. So don't bet on what your countrymen that actually LIVE in Cyprus would reject or accept, I'm not a Cypriot and yet I know your own homeland better than you. And one of the things I know is that, contrary to the "posh lot" in the UK, Cypriots are not very fond of "Charlies" who've been away for so long that they now have formed and joined a new ethnic group, the "British Cypriots" or just "Cypriots". As for the TV shows, Cypriots seem to like them more than you obviously, you can catch them on any channel in Cyprus. Maybe that's why Cyprus is the only country in Europe that's ahead of Greece in the smokers' percentage

Influenced by the crappy Greek shows on TV , they emulate the Greeks because most have not matured enough to create their own. I was a bouzouki players years back and adore Greek music . I stated before that there is an affinity towards the Greek people that will always remain. My point is that Cyprus is internationally recognised as an independent nation with part of it occupied by Turkey. Have also stated that it was the military coup orchestrated and executed by the junta cronies that gave Turkey the green light to invade. I hold the Junta responsible for the 1974 catastrophe , and all those that supported the scumbags.

[alexISS]

You are such a smartass, aren't you alexISS? Could you please show me a post where I said that the invation wouldn't have happened if the coup did not take place? Both me and a number of people here very clearly pointed out that Turkey only needed an excuse to invate. If the coup didn't happen then possibly Turkey would have found another excuse....maybe another bomb set by TMT thugs against TCs in order to blame GCs. However, the above gives absolutely NO justification for another country, in this case Greece, to intervene and try to despose the elected president of another independent country.

Do you or do you not accept the fact that the Junta was represented by and had its orders carried out by the CYPRIOT EOKA B? The coup was a product of greek-greek cypriot "cooperation", can't you understand this?

- Cyprus would be nothing without Greece
- Greece is not responsible an for what happened in Cyprus
- Cyprus would have been in the middle ages without Greece
- Hadn't been for Greece defending Cyprus, Cypriots would have been speaking Turkish
- Cypriots are all to blame about what happened in the past
- ........

Well the reality is

- Greece never defended Cyprus and will never be able to do so - Cypriots know this very well
- Greece is an independent country and quite rightly will seek to defend its people first and not Cyprus
- Greece, among other, is responsible for what happened in Cyprus
- The Cypriot economy did not develop because of Greece
- The trade balance between Greece and Cyprus has always favoured Greece so if one benefits more from this is surely the Greek economy

More crap... You can twist my words all you want, but if you actually believe that Cyprus would be the same without Greece, in the EU, safe and economically as advanced, you are out of this world. I've had this discussions with many, MANY Cypriots, none of them had your views "mate". What more proof could you ask for, I've said it many times and you conveniently ignored it, Cypriot presidents are in constant contact with the Greek government for diplomatic advice and political aid, they fly to Athens the moment an important issue is raised and Greece always lives up to the task, jeopardasing her relations with other countries (as she should)

[alexISS]

Influenced by the crappy Greek shows on TV , they emulate the Greeks because most have not matured enough to create their own. I was a bouzouki players years back and adore Greek music . I stated before that there is an affinity towards the Greek people that will always remain. My point is that Cyprus is internationally recognised as an independent nation with part of it occupied by Turkey. Have also stated that it was the military coup orchestrated and executed by the junta cronies that gave Turkey the green light to invade. I hold the Junta responsible for the 1974 catastrophe , and all those that supported the scumbags.

No you're wrong, an "affinity" would be their relationship with the British, they ARE Greek people and their relationship with the rest of the Greeks is the same as the relationship between Cretans or Rhodians (who share quite a similar lingual idiom with the Cypriots) with the rest of the Greeks. Cyprus is internationally recognized as an independent COUNTRY, not NATION, actually it's the Greek and Turkish nationalities that are internationally recognized. And I agree that greek TV shows are quite crappy, I'd actually rather watch "Istories tou horkou" than a greek serial, but I can't understand what this has to do with anything, Cypriot people like them and watch them because they are Greek

[askimwos]

Influenced by the crappy Greek shows on TV , they emulate the Greeks because most have not matured enough to create their own. I was a bouzouki players years back and adore Greek music . I stated before that there is an affinity towards the Greek people that will always remain. My point is that Cyprus is internationally recognised as an independent nation with part of it occupied by Turkey. Have also stated that it was the military coup orchestrated and executed by the junta cronies that gave Turkey the green light to invade. I hold the Junta responsible for the 1974 catastrophe , and all those that supported the scumbags.

No you're wrong, an "affinity" would be their relationship with the British, they ARE Greek people and their relationship with the rest of the Greeks is the same as the relationship between Cretans or Rhodians (who share quite a similar lingual idiom with the Cypriots) with the rest of the Greeks. Cyprus is internationally recognized as an independent COUNTRY, not NATION, actually it's the Greek and Turkish nationalities that are internationally recognized. And I agree that greek TV shows are quite crappy, I'd actually rather watch "Istories tou horkou" than a greek serial, but I can't understand what this has to do with anything, Cypriot people like them and watch them because they are Greek

And most of the world watches american movies...according to your logic then we are all americans!

Actually now that I think of it again you are becoming more and more entertaining with your ridiculous arguments. Keep up the good work mate, we need some clown in the forum after all

[askimwos]

I've had this discussions with many, MANY Cypriots, none of them had your views "mate".

Really???

Lets then hear what the GCs of this forum can tell us about your views.
So far Miltiades and me expressed our disagreement with most of what you said about Cypriots, the Cypriot economy, the question whether Greece can defend Cyprus, and the responsibilities of Greece about the catastrophe in 1974.

[alexISS]

And most of the world watches american movies...according to your logic then we are all americans!

Actually now that I think of it again you are becoming more and more entertaining with your ridiculous arguments. Keep up the good work mate, we need some clown in the forum after all

I can't believe I'm answering to such stupid comments...

Well, the whole world watches american movies because they are the dominant power in the film industry... But only Cypriots watch the "crappy" Greek tv programme, why on earth would they do that when they can watch some fine BBC documentaries or Hollywood blockbusters instead? You guessed it you moron, it's because they are Greeks! It's your own stupidity you're laughing at, you're just too stupid to know it

[karma]

And most of the world watches american movies...according to your logic then we are all americans!

Actually now that I think of it again you are becoming more and more entertaining with your ridiculous arguments. Keep up the good work mate, we need some clown in the forum after all

I can't believe I'm answering to such stupid comments...

Well, the whole world watches american movies because they are the dominant power in the film industry... But only Cypriots watch the "crappy" Greek tv programme, why on earth would they do that when they can watch some fine BBC documentaries or Hollywood blockbusters instead? You guessed it you moron, it's because they are Greeks! It's your own stupidity you're laughing at, you're just too stupid to know it

and in Greece people keep watching the Turkish serials like hell ''mi moun les adio'' and '' agapi xoris sinora'' and many others..
So Greeks turn Turks, Cypriots turn Greeks and Turks turn Brazilians