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Postby karma » Mon May 07, 2007 1:13 pm

alexISS wrote:
miltiades wrote:Our strong economy has been influenced by a number of factors but most certainly the "Greek " factor was not and neither is now the predominant one.


Without the "Greek" factor, you would have to educate your people in your own universities (or PAY GOOD MONEY to educate them abroad), write and print your own schoolbooks, triple the military service duration to counter the abscence of the Greek army, buy your own aircrafts and warships. What percentage of Cyprus's GDP would be cut off to cover these expenses? And all these while trying to find allies in a world that does not give a shit about Cyprus, a country that would of course be OUT of the EU and still 40km away from Turkey... So, how strong would your economy be without Greece?


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Postby free_cyprus » Mon May 07, 2007 1:34 pm

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stop talking a lot of shite
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Postby alexISS » Mon May 07, 2007 1:50 pm

free_cyprus wrote:alexISS
stop talking a lot of shite


I'm sorry but I'll be ignoring you from now on, I expect more mature answers than yours from more mature people than you
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Postby Simon » Mon May 07, 2007 2:44 pm

alexISS you are correct on most of your points. I am a Greek Cypriot and proud. I will not drop being Greek for any person, under any demand. I believe Greece and Cyprus have a very special relationship and common identity, which should be protected. Greece has done many good turns for Cyprus, but it has also made many mistakes, I suppose this is inevitable in any close relationship.

P.S. Don't take FreeCyprus too seriously, he rambles a lot of rubbish and most people just tend to ignore him (even the neo-Cypriots, which says something!).
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Postby free_cyprus » Mon May 07, 2007 2:56 pm

alexISS
I'm sorry but I'll be ignoring you from now on, I expect more mature answers than yours from more mature people than you

when you become mature enough to give mature replys to cyprus forum regarding cyprus then i will suddenly mature to ......................


Simon
alexISS you are correct on most of your points. I am a Greek Cypriot and proud. I will not drop being Greek for any person, under any demand

cors your greek simon you can trace your roots all the way back to greece
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Postby alexISS » Mon May 07, 2007 2:59 pm

Simon wrote:alexISS you are correct on most of your points. I am a Greek Cypriot and proud. I will not drop being Greek for any person, under any demand. I believe Greece and Cyprus have a very special relationship and common identity, which should be protected. Greece has done many good turns for Cyprus, but it has also made many mistakes, I suppose this is inevitable in any close relationship.

P.S. Don't take FreeCyprus too seriously, he rambles a lot of rubbish and most people just tend to ignore him (even the neo-Cypriots, which says something!).


Thank you! That's all I'm saying, that the Greek people are genuinely interested in the well being of Cypriots, governments come and go, some do good, others do bad. And really, it's O K to be a Greek Cypriot or a Turkish Cypriot, you don't have to abolish your national identities to live together in peace! The best way to have a permanent solution to the Cyprus problem is to accept these realities rather than conceal them, a temporary suppression of the Greekness or Turkishness of Cypriots will inevitably lead to yet another violent outburst of nationalism after a few years
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Postby free_cyprus » Mon May 07, 2007 3:05 pm

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thank you for making us greeks and turks in cyprus lol we been invaded and occupied for thousands of years and suddenly we emerge as greeks and turks..........maybe we are italians they ruled us .......venitions maybe they ruled us to............nooooooo maybe persians..........or iraqies............ermmm then theres the british richard the lionhart........ and then theres greeks and turks.......... and theres egyptions.......... we have been invaded ruled no less then 17 times in history.... and yet our blood is sooo pure its greek and turkish...............lol.............now why didint i think of that in the first place lol
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Postby Simon » Mon May 07, 2007 3:12 pm

AlexISS, you are absolutely correct and this is precisely what I have stated numerous times in the Forum.

A solution to the Cyprus problem can only come through respect, we must respect TCs, their identity and their concerns, and they must respect ours. I believe proportionality is the key, without proportional power-sharing, there can be no fairness and hence no solution. Greece is a vital ally to Cyprus and I hope this is how it will remain for the future. Moreover, I do not see Greece as a foreign country in the ordinary sense of the word; yes we are separate sovereign states, but in many respects we are also one and the same.

P.S. I personally regret that Venizelos did not get his wish, and Greece did not enter WWI until very late. As otherwise, if it had, there probably wouldn't be a Cyprus problem today, and there wouldn't be all this pathetic bickering about whether we are Greek, Cypriot or whatever.
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Postby T_C » Mon May 07, 2007 3:13 pm

alexISS wrote:
Simon wrote:alexISS you are correct on most of your points. I am a Greek Cypriot and proud. I will not drop being Greek for any person, under any demand. I believe Greece and Cyprus have a very special relationship and common identity, which should be protected. Greece has done many good turns for Cyprus, but it has also made many mistakes, I suppose this is inevitable in any close relationship.

P.S. Don't take FreeCyprus too seriously, he rambles a lot of rubbish and most people just tend to ignore him (even the neo-Cypriots, which says something!).


Thank you! That's all I'm saying, that the Greek people are genuinely interested in the well being of Cypriots, governments come and go, some do good, others do bad. And really, it's O K to be a Greek Cypriot or a Turkish Cypriot, you don't have to abolish your national identities to live together in peace! The best way to have a permanent solution to the Cyprus problem is to accept these realities rather than conceal them, a temporary suppression of the Greekness or Turkishness of Cypriots will inevitably lead to yet another violent outburst of nationalism after a few years


Well i'm glad someones putting these "Cypriot Cypriots" in their place!!!
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Postby zan » Mon May 07, 2007 3:15 pm

karma wrote:
alexISS wrote:
miltiades wrote:Our strong economy has been influenced by a number of factors but most certainly the "Greek " factor was not and neither is now the predominant one.


Without the "Greek" factor, you would have to educate your people in your own universities (or PAY GOOD MONEY to educate them abroad), write and print your own schoolbooks, triple the military service duration to counter the abscence of the Greek army, buy your own aircrafts and warships. What percentage of Cyprus's GDP would be cut off to cover these expenses? And all these while trying to find allies in a world that does not give a shit about Cyprus, a country that would of course be OUT of the EU and still 40km away from Turkey... So, how strong would your economy be without Greece?


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