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Postby mehmet » Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:33 pm

Ok, Magicthrill,

so we both agree derogations is not a good thing. It's better to start a thing as you mean to go on, even though the EU is constantly evolving.

As for citizenship, the RoC better make sure that they have a legally watertight case for deciding citizenship on grounds other than racial, ethnic or religious.
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Postby mehmet » Wed Jan 12, 2005 9:39 pm

Also, who told you that literacy in Turkey is an issue? I well understand how capitalism works and realise it goes to wherever profits can be maximised. In that sense it recognises no borders. My main point is that for capitalist interests Turkey being in EU is in line with its interests. When in western European countries they have very little population growth and in some cases the birth rate is less than the death rate nations are going to need a source of labour as their population gets older. And it is believed by some commentators that Turkey's population will be larger than Germany's in 15-20 years time.
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Postby magikthrill » Wed Jan 12, 2005 11:40 pm

mehemt,

understood. low literacy rates --> high birth rates --> more labour

however, more labour can be a good thing for up to a certain point.

as for citizenship statues:

the only country in the Eu that I at least know of that grants citizenship to non ethnic people, is The Netherlands. In every other country you cannot be a citizen unless you show proof of at least 1/8 (or even more) heritage.

Why sould Cyprus be different?
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:13 am

magikthrill wrote:low literacy rates --> high birth rates


Low literacy rates lead to high birth rates? Can you explain the logic behind that? I just don't see the connection :shock:
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Postby boulio » Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:39 am

low literacy rates --> high birth rates

cant read instructions on a condem box. :P
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:41 am

LOL :D
I withdraw the question. It all makes perfect sense to me now :D :D :D
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Postby magikthrill » Thu Jan 13, 2005 2:45 am

actually that is one of the reasons.

did you guys really not know this?

countries associated with lower literacy rates:

a) use less contraceptives
b) use children as assets rather than liabilities, hence they make more children

this is basic high school economics.
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Postby Saint Jimmy » Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:03 am

OK Magik, I thought it was a joke. I have done high school economics, plus at uni, and I can't remember anything like that. Still, I have no reason to discredit what you're saying, I was just asking.
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Postby boulio » Thu Jan 13, 2005 3:37 am

also turkey and especially past i would say the sinop-ankara line to the east were it as i would guess highly agrarian,the more children you have the more free workers you have.
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Postby magikthrill » Thu Jan 13, 2005 5:43 am

st. jimmy,

actually it was an advanced econ class on economic development. actually that might be the only thing i learnt in this class cause our professor enjoyed stating the fact that we were nothing but huge liabilities to our parents :)
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