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Postby Kikapu » Fri Mar 02, 2007 11:59 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
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Viewpoint wrote:If we are going to agree a BBF type solution then I dont see the problem here, unless the GCs have hidden agendas!!! they should not see it as recognition but a sharing excercise, you have an airport we have an airport, GCs adminiister one airport, TCs administer another, isnt this only natural or do you want to control all all the airports?


VP,

Nothing will make sense to you, if you do not understand the very basic rules of "Sovereign State" and a "de facto State".

Once you can understand these differences, then everything else will start making sense to you. So stop questioning the "obvious" as to why things are not done to your liking, and start accepting, why things are done, the way they are.

Would we not do the same, if the shoe was on the other foot. :?: :?: :?:


Alldown to leveling playing field the GCs cannot comprehend allowing ud the same advantages which they feel are exclusively the right of GCs, but we will fight for what we need and never forget their policies just like we have not forgotten the past, they always ring true to form dont you think?


With all due respect VP, I do not think you understood what I wrote at all. You're giving me more of the same of your usual arguments, which does not help solve any of the problems the TC's face.

Perhaps you should read my post one more time.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:01 am

Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:If we are going to agree a BBF type solution then I dont see the problem here, unless the GCs have hidden agendas!!! they should not see it as recognition but a sharing excercise, you have an airport we have an airport, GCs adminiister one airport, TCs administer another, isnt this only natural or do you want to control all all the airports?


VP,

Nothing will make sense to you, if you do not understand the very basic rules of "Sovereign State" and a "de facto State".

Once you can understand these differences, then everything else will start making sense to you. So stop questioning the "obvious" as to why things are not done to your liking, and start accepting, why things are done, the way they are.

Would we not do the same, if the shoe was on the other foot. :?: :?: :?:


Alldown to leveling playing field the GCs cannot comprehend allowing ud the same advantages which they feel are exclusively the right of GCs, but we will fight for what we need and never forget their policies just like we have not forgotten the past, they always ring true to form dont you think?


With all due respect VP, I do not think you understood what I wrote at all. You're giving me more of the same of your usual arguments, which does not help solve any of the problems the TC's face.

Perhaps you should read my post one more time.


Ho I understood what you are saying dont worry about that and I apologise I thought you had grasped the reality that the GCs do not have Sovereignity over the whole island, maybe on paper but not in reality whats the use if you do not have full control over the north, claim all you want. And in order to correct things they have to deal with us who control the north, now do you get it?

In order to get to a stage where whats on paper reflects reality imo a level playing field should be put in place to equal out the advantages and disadvanatges.
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Postby miltiades » Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:19 am

Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:If we are going to agree a BBF type solution then I dont see the problem here, unless the GCs have hidden agendas!!! they should not see it as recognition but a sharing excercise, you have an airport we have an airport, GCs adminiister one airport, TCs administer another, isnt this only natural or do you want to control all all the airports?


VP,

Nothing will make sense to you, if you do not understand the very basic rules of "Sovereign State" and a "de facto State".

Once you can understand these differences, then everything else will start making sense to you. So stop questioning the "obvious" as to why things are not done to your liking, and start accepting, why things are done, the way they are.

Would we not do the same, if the shoe was on the other foot. :?: :?: :?:


Alldown to leveling playing field the GCs cannot comprehend allowing ud the same advantages which they feel are exclusively the right of GCs, but we will fight for what we need and never forget their policies just like we have not forgotten the past, they always ring true to form dont you think?


With all due respect VP, I do not think you understood what I wrote at all. You're giving me more of the same of your usual arguments, which does not help solve any of the problems the TC's face.

Perhaps you should read my post one more time.


Ho I understood what you are saying dont worry about that and I apologise I thought you had grasped the reality that the GCs do not have Sovereignity over the whole island, maybe on paper but not in reality whats the use if you do not have full control over the north, claim all you want. And in order to correct things they have to deal with us who control the north, now do you get it?

In order to get to a stage where whats on paper reflects reality imo a level playing field should be put in place to equal out the advantages and disadvanatges.

Would you stop repeating that stupid bloody word "level playing field " You are boring the pants off all of us with your display of an insatiable appetite for crap postings and propaganda garbage. You are in need of an urgent change of script , this one is dated .
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Postby pitsilos » Sat Mar 03, 2007 9:27 am

he is waiting for the new book to come out. :lol:
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Postby zan » Sat Mar 03, 2007 1:46 pm

No wonder there has been no progress on any of the meetings that the two sides have had. We might as well accept the Greek way VP because we are not right in anything. It is a miracle that any Greek philosophers ever made it to fame and fortune. :roll:
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Postby humanist » Sat Mar 03, 2007 11:06 pm

Ah, for once you have seen the light Zan and you are right, this time. The Greeks are always right, thanks for appreciating that :) :)
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Postby miltiades » Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:02 am

zan wrote:No wonder there has been no progress on any of the meetings that the two sides have had. We might as well accept the Greek way VP because we are not right in anything. It is a miracle that any Greek philosophers ever made it to fame and fortune. :roll:

Maybe they did not have a level playing field !
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Postby humanist » Sun Mar 04, 2007 12:48 am

[VP wrote]So your proposal is we all move south? that really says it all....just up roots and move to a totally alien environment and restrart your lives, well if you cannot see the problem with that then there not a lot I can say to make you understand. Our lives are here in the North we want to live here where we feel we belong and enjoy the same rights as everyone else, no more no less.[/quote]

What do you think 200,000 refugees had todo when you ousted them,out of their homeland, they too had to start new life,

You want to live in the north that is fine in a fre country you can live anywhere you want to, so when a solution is found negotiate with a rightful owner of a property and buy it from them fair and square.

About your rights you are just going to have to provide example of the rights your are referring too, because I don't know what to respond to that. Otherwise it is a victim mentality and I don't buy that.

It has been proven over and over again that the RoC is doing something about the turkish speaking cypriots all the trnc does is violating human rights.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:20 am

miltiades wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
Kikapu wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:If we are going to agree a BBF type solution then I dont see the problem here, unless the GCs have hidden agendas!!! they should not see it as recognition but a sharing excercise, you have an airport we have an airport, GCs adminiister one airport, TCs administer another, isnt this only natural or do you want to control all all the airports?


VP,

Nothing will make sense to you, if you do not understand the very basic rules of "Sovereign State" and a "de facto State".

Once you can understand these differences, then everything else will start making sense to you. So stop questioning the "obvious" as to why things are not done to your liking, and start accepting, why things are done, the way they are.

Would we not do the same, if the shoe was on the other foot. :?: :?: :?:


Alldown to leveling playing field the GCs cannot comprehend allowing ud the same advantages which they feel are exclusively the right of GCs, but we will fight for what we need and never forget their policies just like we have not forgotten the past, they always ring true to form dont you think?


With all due respect VP, I do not think you understood what I wrote at all. You're giving me more of the same of your usual arguments, which does not help solve any of the problems the TC's face.

Perhaps you should read my post one more time.


Ho I understood what you are saying dont worry about that and I apologise I thought you had grasped the reality that the GCs do not have Sovereignity over the whole island, maybe on paper but not in reality whats the use if you do not have full control over the north, claim all you want. And in order to correct things they have to deal with us who control the north, now do you get it?

In order to get to a stage where whats on paper reflects reality imo a level playing field should be put in place to equal out the advantages and disadvanatges.

Would you stop repeating that stupid bloody word "level playing field " You are boring the pants off all of us with your display of an insatiable appetite for crap postings and propaganda garbage. You are in need of an urgent change of script , this one is dated .


Its what you call being consistent in your arguements, believing something and sticking with it, try it sometime.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sun Mar 04, 2007 1:28 am

zan wrote:No wonder there has been no progress on any of the meetings that the two sides have had. We might as well accept the Greek way VP because we are not right in anything. It is a miracle that any Greek philosophers ever made it to fame and fortune. :roll:


Thats what they think...like an ostrich,


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