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The Republic of Hatay 1938-1939

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby shahmaran » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:16 pm

excuse me what?

are you talking to TCs or to Turks, or just to Turks in general?
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Postby Natty » Sat Mar 03, 2007 7:24 pm

Turkey insisted that a majority of its population were Turks, and that it should revert to the Turkish Republic.


It's the hypocracy I don't like.... :(
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Postby karma » Thu Mar 15, 2007 11:18 am

and if my grandmother was my grandfather....
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Postby iceman » Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:14 pm

karma wrote:and if my grandmother was my grandfather....



correction!!
karma,the saying goes like this "If my grandmother had balls i would have called her grandfather"
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Postby GreekForumer » Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:22 pm

iceman wrote:
karma wrote:and if my grandmother was my grandfather....



correction!!
karma,the saying goes like this "If my grandmother had balls i would have called her grandfather"


Is this all you've got to say ?

Do you think the Republic of Hatay was stolen from the non Turks ?
Was 40% Turks enough to make TAKSIM/ENOSIS of ALL Hatay ?
Do you feel something for all those Armenians and Greeks and Arabs who packed their bags and left Hatay ?
What happened to the rights of the non Turks ?
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:23 pm

I didnt all this because this is very long ,
All i know about Hatay is that people there choose to be with there with election and regular this election is happening . Another thing that Hatay people people have better services from the other part from Turkey and Police is more friendly because of the situation. The people ive there they want to be with Turkey and not Suriye and most of them Arabs. One of the hatay person told me this.
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Postby GreekForumer » Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:31 pm

GAVCARoCOM wrote:I didnt all this because this is very long ,
All i know about Hatay is that people there choose to be with there with election and regular this election is happening . Another thing that Hatay people people have better services from the other part from Turkey and Police is more friendly because of the situation. The people ive there they want to be with Turkey and not Suriye and most of them Arabs. One of the hatay person told me this.


If you read the articles, you would have discovered that the Turks only made up 40% of the Republic. The other 60% DID NOT WANT TAKSIM/ENOSIS.

Not only that, the Turks, with the help of the French, CHEATED to reach 66% of the assembly and then voted to join Turkey!

I repeat, 60% of the people DID NOT WANT TAKSIM/ENOSIS WITH TURKEY.

HATAY : "in a free, honest count the Turks would have little chance of winning."
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Thu Mar 15, 2007 3:45 pm

GreekForumer wrote:
GAVCARoCOM wrote:I didnt all this because this is very long ,
All i know about Hatay is that people there choose to be with there with election and regular this election is happening . Another thing that Hatay people people have better services from the other part from Turkey and Police is more friendly because of the situation. The people ive there they want to be with Turkey and not Suriye and most of them Arabs. One of the hatay person told me this.


If you read the articles, you would have discovered that the Turks only made up 40% of the Republic. The other 60% DID NOT WANT TAKSIM/ENOSIS.

Not only that, the Turks, with the help of the French, CHEATED to reach 66% of the assembly and then voted to join Turkey!

I repeat, 60% of the people DID NOT WANT TAKSIM/ENOSIS WITH TURKEY.
HATAY : "in a free, honest count the Turks would have little chance of winning."


As much as i know personally from the people who live there . They did want it and election is regularly happening. I m sure about this. Anytime they like they can be seperated or join Somewherelse.
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Postby GreekForumer » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:02 pm

GAVCARoCOM wrote:
GreekForumer wrote:
GAVCARoCOM wrote:I didnt all this because this is very long ,
All i know about Hatay is that people there choose to be with there with election and regular this election is happening . Another thing that Hatay people people have better services from the other part from Turkey and Police is more friendly because of the situation. The people ive there they want to be with Turkey and not Suriye and most of them Arabs. One of the hatay person told me this.


If you read the articles, you would have discovered that the Turks only made up 40% of the Republic. The other 60% DID NOT WANT TAKSIM/ENOSIS.

Not only that, the Turks, with the help of the French, CHEATED to reach 66% of the assembly and then voted to join Turkey!

I repeat, 60% of the people DID NOT WANT TAKSIM/ENOSIS WITH TURKEY.
HATAY : "in a free, honest count the Turks would have little chance of winning."


As much as i know personally from the people who live there . They did want it and election is regularly happening. I m sure about this. Anytime they like they can be seperated or join Somewherelse.


GAVCARoCOM, just before Turkey took over in 1939, tens of thousands of people packed their bags and left Alexandretta (Hatay). These people do not participate in elections in Hatay anymore. They voted with their feet. The demographics have been changed forever.


GAVCARoCOM wrote:They did want it


In 1939, 60% did not.

"Turkey took over, and pressured non-Turks who would not accept Turkish citizenship to leave."

"in a free, honest count the Turks would have little chance of winning. "

"At another time a League of Nations plebiscite was to be held in the district, but when most of the non-Turks banded together and it became obvious that the Turks could not win, the obliging French invited the League Commission to leave. "
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Postby GAVCARoCOM » Thu Mar 15, 2007 4:06 pm

mmmmm,
Thats interesting because in London and some other countrys 400.000 Turkish Cypriots living as well. But most of them moved between 1957-1974 . Then what they have to do. I been in Hatay once and i could see a big mountain vary big . and the people who lives behind the mountain are not Turks and they are very happy with their life. Nobody complain about Turkey . Anyway we have to find solition about Cyprus not for them.
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