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The lies of the Turkish side and the brainwashing on the TCs

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Postby Piratis » Tue May 08, 2007 3:54 pm

Positions occupied by the Government and Turkish Cypriot Forces


The government of a country should control the 100% of the country not part of it. What you have falsely claimed is that GCs forced TCs in the 3% of land, while the correct statement is that TC paramilitaries fighting for the partition of Cyprus have illegally took control of some areas and do not allow the state to control them.

So start making the correct statements, since your lies have already been proven false.
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Postby zan » Wed May 09, 2007 12:27 am

Piratis wrote:
Positions occupied by the Government and Turkish Cypriot Forces


The government of a country should control the 100% of the country not part of it. What you have falsely claimed is that GCs forced TCs in the 3% of land, while the correct statement is that TC paramilitaries fighting for the partition of Cyprus have illegally took control of some areas and do not allow the state to control them.

So start making the correct statements, since your lies have already been proven false.


How long has it taken you to think that one up.......I am impressed though. It is a good angle even though it is as flimsy as the little girls’ skirt you are wearing.


Let me ask you....How many times have you boasted about the vast majority of Cypriots being GCs and only a small number being TCs. So if we take the numbers and the fact that the army of Cyprus at the time were all Greek...From Cyprus as well as from Greece..That a hand full of TCs that were not even all together but dispersed all over the island in small prison like enclaves..Who were starving...And dying of disease after Makarios turned off the water....Those brave people held off the might of the Greeks :shock: WOW! We were good.
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Postby Piratis » Wed May 09, 2007 12:39 am

In 1963 started fighting for partition, so don't blame GCs exclusively for the conflict you had half the blame. In fact an equal number of GCs and TCs (a few 100s) was killed.

And don't give me your lies about "starvation" and all that. Here is from a link that you posted a few weeks ago:
http://kypros.org/Cyprus/cy_republic/demography.html

The percentage of TCs in 1960 was 18.13% and by 1973 it was 18.4%. If anything from what you claim happened, "the innocent few TCs fighting against GCs and Greeks at the same time, with no food and water" and all the other crap you say, then the number of TCs should have been cut to half at least.

So stop lying
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Postby zan » Wed May 09, 2007 12:53 am

Piratis wrote:In 1963 started fighting for partition, so don't blame GCs exclusively for the conflict you had half the blame. In fact an equal number of GCs and TCs (a few 100s) was killed.

And don't give me your lies about "starvation" and all that. Here is from a link that you posted a few weeks ago:
http://kypros.org/Cyprus/cy_republic/demography.html

The percentage of TCs in 1960 was 18.13% and by 1973 it was 18.4%. If anything from what you claim happened, "the innocent few TCs fighting against GCs and Greeks at the same time, with no food and water" and all the other crap you say, then the number of TCs should have been cut to half at least.

So stop lying


Your idea of ENOSIS came a hundred years before any of that Piratis so you can stop your crap. The fighting was not fighting but us defending our selves from your attacks. You can still spin as much as you want but that is what happened. With the TCs knowing hat ENOSIS was all you guys had in mind and the killing of just a few hundred TCs, as you put it, then I cannot see any right thinking person ever seeing our defense as being just and noble. You keep going on with your numbers lover. People are really listening and are stupid enough to believe you.

The problem you keep having with calling me a liar is that you keep forgetting that people lived through this and are still alive. No matter how hard you tried to starve them out they lived through your cruelty and are here to tell their story. More will come out with more of your intransigence. People that did not speak because they thought that they would actually get a fair deal from you are just about fed up. People like my brother in-law who saw 200 men being led off by your treacherous army to be shot in a school. He saw his sister nearly die from starvation and disease in one of your prison camps. Thanks to DR.Kucuk she still lives. Don't you dare call me a liar on these accounts. You will rot in hell for trying to cover up these atrocities carried out by your EOKA thugs that you honor every year.
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Postby Piratis » Wed May 09, 2007 1:10 am

Look mate, you can tell as many lies and fake stories to excuse the occupation of our country so you can steal our land. It doesn't change anything. The occupation is illegal and the "trnc" is illegal and this will not change no matter how many lies you say.
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Postby zan » Wed May 09, 2007 1:20 am

Piratis wrote:Look mate, you can tell as many lies and fake stories to excuse the occupation of our country so you can steal our land. It doesn't change anything. The occupation is illegal and the "trnc" is illegal and this will not change no matter how many lies you say.



Thats fine by me. I prefer that you keep denying them. Shows the real intensions of the GCs at your level. Gives my people, that have lived through all of this, something to fight against. Keep it up.
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Postby Sotos » Wed May 09, 2007 10:15 am

Zan, Piratis gave the numbers that show you that the number of TCs increased from 1960 to 1973. How do you explain that? It doesn't match with your lies.
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Postby free_cyprus » Wed May 09, 2007 10:57 am

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was there turkish and greek armies present in cyprus after cyprus got their soo called independence?????????????????
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Postby observer » Wed May 09, 2007 2:50 pm

Yes = and still are.
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Re: The lies of the Turkish side and the brainwashing on the

Postby theodore » Mon Sep 17, 2007 10:39 pm

[quote="Kifeas"][b]The lies of the Turkish side and the brainwashing against the Turkish Cypriot public![/b]

One of the major standard Turkish propaganda claims (lies) and of the nationalist historical TC leadership under the master of manipulation and lies, Mr. Denktash, is the one referring to the size of the TC enclaves during the period of 1964-1968, during which they exploited the intercommunal violence which they (TMT, the TC leadership and mainland Turkish secret services) equally provoked and invited (according all serious foreign researchers and authors,) in order to set up the foundations of invasion and partition. They claim that the Greek Cypriots “squeezed” them to an area of less than 3% of Cyprus, a lie they continue trying to pass around up until this day, and they even post maps in their propaganda web-sites, in order to “prove” their propaganda allegations.

One such map with the relevant false comments /allegations appears in one of the “TRNC” websites, in the following link.

http://www.trncinfo.com/TANITMADAIRESI/ ... NTS/24.htm

Based on the scale of the same map in which they claim that the areas painted in red, represent the 3% of Cyprus, I have calculated the size of the area that would truly represent the 3% of Cyprus, which I embedded as a green box at the upper right part of the same map appearing below.

[img]http://xs412.xs.to/xs412/07093/CypMap3pc.jpg[/img]

The size of Cyprus is equal to 9,251 sq. kms. The 3% of the island is consequently equal to 277.5 sq. kms. The square root of 277.5 is equal to 16.66. Therefore, an area equal to 277.5 sq. kms (3% of Cyprus) corresponds to a rectangular box with dimensions of 16.66 kms times 16.66 kms (16.66 x 16.66,) which is exactly the size of the green box I drew in the above map, based on the scale of the map.

Compare the green box with the entire areas painted in red in the above map, and you will obviously realize that they constitute a much bigger area.

I spend over 1 hour using another software package that I downloaded from the internet, Global Mapper 7, which has the power to calculate marked areas of a map, based on a scale, and tell you the size of an area in units of square meters or kms. The total area in the above map that is painted with a red color (TC enclaves,) came out to be 1561 sq. kms, close to 17% (16.874%) of Cyprus.[/quote]

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Thanks this is very educational for me I will go to same books and look same facts tomorrow.
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