by Viewpoint » Thu Mar 01, 2007 12:34 pm
Piratis wrote:the above quote by zan is posted yet by another Turkish propaganda website that is lying like all the rest.
Viewpoint, I am guessing you have already contacted your propaganda department and told them to be very careful when they mix facts with their lies in order not to contradict themselves and reveal how much they are lying?
He said check your own propaganda and people in glass houses should not throw bricks. 
by pitsilos » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:29 pm
Viewpoint wrote:Piratis wrote:the above quote by zan is posted yet by another Turkish propaganda website that is lying like all the rest.
Viewpoint, I am guessing you have already contacted your propaganda department and told them to be very careful when they mix facts with their lies in order not to contradict themselves and reveal how much they are lying?
I went direct to the top man Talat
I went direct to the top man Talat
by polis » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:38 pm
Kifeas wrote:The lies of the Turkish side and the brainwashing against the Turkish Cypriot public!
One of the major standard Turkish propaganda claims (lies) and of the nationalist historical TC leadership under the master of manipulation and lies, Mr. Denktash, is the one referring to the size of the TC enclaves during the period of 1964-1968, during which they exploited the intercommunal violence which they (TMT, the TC leadership and mainland Turkish secret services) equally provoked and invited (according all serious foreign researchers and authors,) in order to set up the foundations of invasion and partition. They claim that the Greek Cypriots “squeezed” them to an area of less than 3% of Cyprus, a lie they continue trying to pass around up until this day, and they even post maps in their propaganda web-sites, in order to “prove” their propaganda allegations.
One such map with the relevant false comments /allegations appears in one of the “TRNC” websites, in the following link.
http://www.trncinfo.com/TANITMADAIRESI/ ... NTS/24.htm
Based on the scale of the same map in which they claim that the areas painted in red, represent the 3% of Cyprus, I have calculated the size of the area that would truly represent the 3% of Cyprus, which I embedded as a green box at the upper right part of the same map appearing below.
The size of Cyprus is equal to 9,251 sq. kms. The 3% of the island is consequently equal to 277.5 sq. kms. The square root of 277.5 is equal to 16.66. Therefore, an area equal to 277.5 sq. kms (3% of Cyprus) corresponds to a rectangular box with dimensions of 16.66 kms times 16.66 kms (16.66 x 16.66,) which is exactly the size of the green box I drew in the above map, based on the scale of the map.
Compare the green box with the entire areas painted in red in the above map, and you will obviously realize that they constitute a much bigger area.
I spend over 1 hour using another software package that I downloaded from the internet, Global Mapper 7, which has the power to calculate marked areas of a map, based on a scale, and tell you the size of an area in units of square meters or kms. The total area in the above map that is painted with a red color (TC enclaves,) came out to be 1561 sq. kms, close to 17% (16.874%) of Cyprus.
by zan » Fri Mar 02, 2007 10:50 am
Piratis wrote:the above quote by zan is posted yet by another Turkish propaganda website that is lying like all the rest.
Viewpoint, I am guessing you have already contacted your propaganda department and told them to be very careful when they mix facts with their lies in order not to contradict themselves and reveal how much they are lying?
REFORT BY THE SECRETARY-GENERAL ON THE UNITED NATIONS
OPERATION IN CYPRUS
(For the period 10 September .to 12 December 1964)
(ii) Positions occupied by the Government and Turkish Cypriot Forces
143. In the period under review, there has been little change in the disposition of Government and Turkish Cypriot forces from the positions which they occupied at the time of the report of 10 September 1964. The Turkish Cypriots continue in control of several widely scattered areas, which include the northern part of Nicosia City, its north-western suburbs and the region to the east and west of Kyrenia road up to the southern edge of the town of Kyrenia; the town of Louroujina; the Turkish quarters of Famagusta and Larnaca; an enclave comprising Lefka, another around Kalyvakia, and the two beach-heads at Kokkina and Limnitis. These areas are administered by the Turkish Cypriot community, under the authority of the Vice-President's office, and are defended by positions manned by
Turkish Cypriot fighters. In the aggregate, these Turkish Cypriot areas cover approximately 54 square miles, or 1 l/2 per cent of the total area of the country, with a population of about 59,000, including13,600 refugees. Access to them is effectively interdicted to Greek Cypriots in general, and to Government troops, police and. administrative agents in particular, except for travel on the Kyrenia Road and across Limnitis bridgehead under UNFICYP escort. Roadblocks, trenches, fortified posts, and sandbag emplacements on the ground or behind windows or on the roofs of buildings, are the visible marks of this situation.
146. It should be noted that there are substantial Turkish Cypriot communities in such places as Ktima and Limassol, as well as a number of Turkish Cypriot villages, which are under the military, police, and administrative control of the Government. Some of these, notably Ktima (occupied on 4-7 March) were militarily subdued by the Government forces during the disturbances which took place prior to the establishment of UNFICYP. These should not be counted among the areas under actual control of the Turkish Cypriot leadership in Nicosia, although in practice the Turkish Cypriot community leaders in such places follow the political line of their compatriots in Nicosia, while Greek Cypriot civilians prefer to avoid straying into them.
by zan » Tue May 08, 2007 3:40 pm
zan wrote:Piratis wrote:the above quote by zan is posted yet by another Turkish propaganda website that is lying like all the rest.
Viewpoint, I am guessing you have already contacted your propaganda department and told them to be very careful when they mix facts with their lies in order not to contradict themselves and reveal how much they are lying?
Its like a talking robot sometimes.REFORT BY THE SECRETARY-GENERAL ON THE UNITED NATIONS
OPERATION IN CYPRUS
(For the period 10 September .to 12 December 1964)
(ii) Positions occupied by the Government and Turkish Cypriot Forces
143. In the period under review, there has been little change in the disposition of Government and Turkish Cypriot forces from the positions which they occupied at the time of the report of 10 September 1964. The Turkish Cypriots continue in control of several widely scattered areas, which include the northern part of Nicosia City, its north-western suburbs and the region to the east and west of Kyrenia road up to the southern edge of the town of Kyrenia; the town of Louroujina; the Turkish quarters of Famagusta and Larnaca; an enclave comprising Lefka, another around Kalyvakia, and the two beach-heads at Kokkina and Limnitis. These areas are administered by the Turkish Cypriot community, under the authority of the Vice-President's office, and are defended by positions manned by
Turkish Cypriot fighters. In the aggregate, these Turkish Cypriot areas cover approximately 54 square miles, or 1 l/2 per cent of the total area of the country, with a population of about 59,000, including13,600 refugees. Access to them is effectively interdicted to Greek Cypriots in general, and to Government troops, police and. administrative agents in particular, except for travel on the Kyrenia Road and across Limnitis bridgehead under UNFICYP escort. Roadblocks, trenches, fortified posts, and sandbag emplacements on the ground or behind windows or on the roofs of buildings, are the visible marks of this situation.
146. It should be noted that there are substantial Turkish Cypriot communities in such places as Ktima and Limassol, as well as a number of Turkish Cypriot villages, which are under the military, police, and administrative control of the Government. Some of these, notably Ktima (occupied on 4-7 March) were militarily subdued by the Government forces during the disturbances which took place prior to the establishment of UNFICYP. These should not be counted among the areas under actual control of the Turkish Cypriot leadership in Nicosia, although in practice the Turkish Cypriot community leaders in such places follow the political line of their compatriots in Nicosia, while Greek Cypriot civilians prefer to avoid straying into them.
Read it and weep. Just because you and Kifeas work for the propaganda team for losers is not worth crying about.
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