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[GAVCARoCOM]

I said on the map it says 1958

I didnt say he try to build hotel in 1958
Of course they had a good relationships wit GCs all the time
We are talking here about the politicians , Eoka

[the_snake_and_the_crane]

GavCar...can you sum up the difference between EOKA A and EOKA B for us and can you also briefly tell us how the Greek coup (which lasted less than a week) in Cyprus came about.

Or are you going to be testimony to this post and say that all Greek Cypriots including Makarios wanted Enosis with Greece and that there was a supposed 'genocide' on Turkish Cypriots which lasted the full length between 1963 and 1974????

[GAVCARoCOM]

My english not very good. You write instead of me.
I m geting very tired on this forum.
I m cooking octopus now to eat.
Please if you can add some things there as well about Global warming and how it will effect the cyprus future it will be great.

[Viewpoint]

Who produced the map?

How do you know those villages marked in red arent the ones GC burnt down and were empty?

VP, did you read the website that you put together and which I linked you above?

Read what it says, and stop wasting our time with nonesense!

I shall inform the relevant office as they appear to have posted a map that was available at a specific period in history and not the exact 3% which was probably not documented during the turmoil of the time. Well spotted and thanks for the info as this map seems to show the TC refugees had more land than they really did. If the Green box you have shown represents 3%, then this is clearly 3% of the overall 18% TCs occupied prior to being made refugees by GCs and moving into Ghettos out of fear, discrimination and persection. Proving the % was incorrect does not detract for the overall scenerio that TCs were living through hell at the hands of the GC "compatriots".

Maybe you should spend more time on researching why the GCs were persecuting and denying TCs even basic supplies into the Ghettos rather than download programmes to work out silly %. You sound like Piraits you killed more people so you are the guilty party, doesn't work that way.

[Viewpoint]

Kifeas, what the TCs always hide in their propaganda are 2 things:

1) The intercommunal conflict was the fault of both communities and 2) both communities had about an equal number of victims from it.

TCs in their propaganda try to present the intercomunal conflict as being created only by GCs, and they forget that their own leadership had never accepted an independent Cyprus and that their plan was partition, which is why the inter communal conflict suited them.

Here is a map created by the Turkish side as early as 1957:


What s shown in red in Kifeas map is actually very near the TC population percentage. But notice how much of Cyprus the TCs of 18% wanted.

The greedy TCs have always tried to gain on our loss way more than what proportionately belongs to them, and that naturally caused the reaction of GCs.

So according your "logic" the side that kills more people is more guilty? and not the side that lit the fuse that made the bomb go off?

So what you are saying is that becuase we wanted Taksim you countered with enosis? what if I told you that 1974 never happened and you all wanted to move south and live separately?

[Viewpoint]

Kifeas, what the TCs always hide in their propaganda are 2 things:

1) The intercommunal conflict was the fault of both communities and 2) both communities had about an equal number of victims from it.

TCs in their propaganda try to present the intercomunal conflict as being created only by GCs, and they forget that their own leadership had never accepted an independent Cyprus and that their plan was partition, which is why the inter communal conflict suited them.

Here is a map created by the Turkish side as early as 1957:


What s shown in red in Kifeas map is actually very near the TC population percentage. But notice how much of Cyprus the TCs of 18% wanted.

The greedy TCs have always tried to gain on our loss way more than what proportionately belongs to them, and that naturally caused the reaction of GCs.

Piratis, their national hero and father, "Atta-Turk," said to them -and they made it a slogan painted and sung in schools and squares, that "one Turk equals the whole world!" Consequently, you should feel lucky and contempt that the 18% of them in Cyprus, asked for only 50% or 60% of the island. If one of them equals the whole world, 100,000 of Turkish Cypriots should have rightfully asked for the entire universe, and not just the modest 50% of Cyprus!

Do some research into why Mustafa Kemal Ataturk said this then it will make sense...just using it to mock and belittle Turks only shows your own ignorance.

[zan]

I think Kifeas is working for this forum. He keeps adding rubbish when the forum goes a bit dry to get us to talk so, not to be taken seriously.

[zan]

What is that figure quoted below????????????????? £ what..........Oh! %

Glafcos Clerides, now the President of the Greek Cypriots, said at the time "we the Greek Cypriots are in full control of the Government. All the Ministers are Greeks. Our government is the only one recognised internationally - why should we bring the Turks back in? The Turks today control only 3% of the land. They have no rich resources and they are living through difficult times from an economic point of view. They will ultimately have to accept our point of view - or go."

[shahmaran]

i think he did say something about inaccurate propaganda, oh wait was it LIES....

[Piratis]

the above quote by zan is posted yet by another Turkish propaganda website that is lying like all the rest.

Viewpoint, I am guessing you have already contacted your propaganda department and told them to be very careful when they mix facts with their lies in order not to contradict themselves and reveal how much they are lying?