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Postby T_C » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:04 pm

humanist wrote:what are "Greek Ways" excactly?


Maybe one of them could let us know.

humanist wrote:people the question here is do we want to live together as cypriots or not? if the answer is yes then we need to work together to find a solution if the answer is no welll then we are sorry excuses for human beings.


Yes I agree here and I think/hope that we can.

humanist wrote:i have decided that I am a turkish cypriot who speaks greek because my cypriot customs are closer to a turkish speaking cypriots than a greek.

i would really like response.:) have a nice day!


LOL Well we've come to expect such an open mind from the likes of you Humanist. Unfortunately not everyone thinks like you...You are now officially a Turkified Greek Cypriot. :lol:
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Postby humanist » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:32 pm

Thanks Turkish Cypriot, I wear the label with pride. Hey you have changed your signature, how come. I hope it is not because of the coment made by someone that they find it offenssive. If they find it offensive that is their problem. That is the problem of our world people find offense at everything. I am having difficulty grasping te essence oif this one, not to worry i shall figure it out.

Mate I am totally lost in this whole thing really, cyprus is big enough ofr it population, there is plenty of space for us to live in so, lets just get our shit together shall we.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:20 am

turkish_cypriot wrote:No mate it is YOU boring me shitless!

What part of indigenous means NATURALLY OCCURING do YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

Were the people of Cyprus ORIGINALLY, NATURALLY Greek to begin with?

It was you that brought up the Mycaeneans, you say "our Greekness was imported" but that is my point. I'm not arguing with the fact you say you've been there a long time but Cypriots werent naturally Greek!

It was an import (your words, not mine), an import contradicts the whole point of the word INDIGENOUS!


At last we are starting to make some sense out of all this.

Of course we are/were not Greek! That's what I've been trying to get across aswell but people get upset when they hear this so let's keep it hush-hush shall we...:)

Ok, so here's a recap... the people we call today "Greek Cypriot" are the indigenous people of Cyprus who had nothing to do with Greece to start with. Amen?

How do you say "Amen" in Turkish?
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Postby T_C » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:26 am

Ok well I'm glad we've finally got somewhere with this debate.

AMEN! (same in Turkish)
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Postby pitsilos » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:26 am

Ok, so here's a recap... the people we call today "Greek Cypriot" are the indigenous people of Cyprus who had nothing to do with Greece to start with. Amen?


double amen.

and in a few years the tcs will claim the same from turkey.
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:30 am

humanist wrote:what are "Greek Ways" excactly?

people the question here is do we want to live together as cypriots or not? if the answer is yes then we need to work together to find a solution if the answer is no welll then we are sorry excuses for human beings.

i have decided that I am a turkish cypriot who speaks greek because my cypriot customs are closer to a turkish speaking cypriots than a greek.

i would really like response.:) have a nice day!


I think I was the first to bring up this phrase in this topic and I meant all the little things we have pinched and gotten influenced by from Greeks such as religion, language, music, food maybe, and those kind of things.

As for living together, well just as soon as the lads are ready to assimilate they can give us a shout...
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Postby Get Real! » Thu Mar 01, 2007 1:35 am

turkish_cypriot wrote:Ok well I'm glad we've finally got somewhere with this debate.

AMEN! (same in Turkish)


Well Amen to that! Now where did I put that Fez...
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Postby Natty » Thu Mar 01, 2007 4:59 am

Now I'm not an expert on the history of Cyprus, but as far as I know before the 'Greek culture' had even become the 'greek culture' the Cypriots in Cyprus had come up with a language, the Cypro-Minoan script, because of the close relationship with the Minoans of Crete (A group of people incidental that are thought of as being ancient Greek).

http://links.jstor.org/sici?sici=0002-9 ... size=LARGE

Then the Archeans set up a few city's and then there was a large influx of Mycenaeans...But the question is, how do you know what is Greek and what isn't? Well the language for one, but there's some evidence that the Greek Alphabet was fist written in Cyprus and then transported the rest of the Greek World...so where does that put Cyprus?

Book Description
In this book, Woodard examines the origin of the Greek alphabet. Diverging from previous accounts, he places the advent of the alphabet at a point within an unbroken continuum of Greek literacy beginning in the Mycenean era. Woodard argues that the creators of the Greek alphabet, or, more accurately, the adapters of the Phoenician consonantal script, were scribes accustomed to writing Greek with the syllabic script of Cyprus. Certain characteristic features of Cypriot script, features which arose from the idiosyncratic Cypriot strategy for representing consonant sequences and from the intersection of this strategy with elements of Cypriot Greek phonology, were transferred to the new alphabetic script. Proposing this Cypriot origin of the alphabet at the hands of previously literate adapters clears up various problems of the alphabet, such as the Greek use of the Phoenician sibilant letters. The alphabet, though rejected by the post-Bronze Age "Mycenaen" culture of Cyprus, was exported west to the Aegean, where it gained a foothold among a then illiterate Greek people emerging from the Dark Age.


http://www.amazon.com/exec/obidos/ISBN= ... languageA/

I believe that Cyprus does have it's own unique culture (I also think places like Crete can also boast that), but there is a certain amount of Greek heritage that has become infused into the Island and no one can deny that, we just have to accept and embrace our similarities and differences and move on...
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