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[T_C]

The remains of the people from 10,000BC have only been found at Kitium and not the whole of the island.

Like i said before, there has been an early settlement found near Larnaca but the majority of the island was unsettled at that time.

I would like to know of which civilization you would attach Cyprus in 10,000 BC too? Because they must have come from somewhere.

when TCs get to 5000 will that make us indigenous people of Cyprus too?

At the going rate - there will be no such things as TC in 50 years time. Only Turks.

ARE YOU NOT READING?????

They were Neolithic and they probably came from Anatolia, we're talking about the new stone age here!!!!

[the_snake_and_the_crane]

3. Conclusions

The burials discovered do not represent the whole population of the island

This peice is consistant with what I said about singular settlements being found in Cyprus. Also, the term Neolithic can represent ancient people in North Africa or even Japan, so I dont see the point in highlighting the word.

[T_C]

Sorry but you are lame!

Adopting "Greek ways" does not make the indigenous people of the Island Greek!

It doesnt make them non-Greek either. There has been no proof found that says that the people of Cyprus from 10,000BC were not Greek.

They also seemed to have embraced and adopted the 'Greek Ways'. Who are you to say they are not Greek if they themselves adopted Greek culture?

I tell you who you are - another Turk who wants to remove Hellenism from Cyprus.

What the fuck are you talking about? You are twisting what I'm trying to get at because you just cant accept being wrong.

HOW COULD THEY OF BEEN GREEK AT 10000BC, THE STONE AGE?????????????????????

[the_snake_and_the_crane]

Neolithic culture appeared in the Levant (Jericho, Palestine) about 8500 BC

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Neolithic

(even though i'll admit Wikipedia cannot be the mother of sources on most subject).

As im going to say once more only, yes there was a Neolithic (probably Phoenician) settlement found in Cyprus near Larnaca - but the first cultural civilisation which spread across the whole island and can be traced to today - is Mycaenean and Ionian Greek.

[the_snake_and_the_crane]

What the fuck are you talking about? You are twisting what I'm trying to get at because you just cant accept being wrong.

HOW COULD THEY OF BEEN GREEK AT 10000BC, THE STONE AGE?????????????????????

SO WHICH CULTURE, IF THERE WERE ANY DISTINCTIVE ONES, FROM 10,000BC CAN BE LINKED TO TODAY!???

Are we to abandon the term 'indigenous peoples' because some hair-splitting Turkish guy wants to remove the otherwise world renknowned and accepted fact that Cyprus has had a predominantly Greek culture since the very first recognised civilization on the island???

Next your going to tell me that the people of Greece are not Greek because real Greeks were wiped out from Greece hundreds of years ago and we are a mixture of Slavic and Persian peoples.

[Get Real!]

Getreal! - if we are not supposedly related by blood to the Greeks (I dont know of any peoples who can relate a pure bloodline that far) - Then are you saying that no Mycaenean or Ionian Greeks settled in Cyprus??

There was a mass settlement of Mycaenean and Ionian Greeks between 2000-1600BC. Some of the reasons for such a migration include the Dorian Greek tribe invading southern Greece from the north, causing the Mycaenean and Ionian tribes to flee overseas, as well as Greeks en-route to the Trojan war (a peoples who many historians also attach to the many Greek tribes of that era).

I haven't the faintest idea how many Myceans settled here if any. My point was that our "greekness" is an import and not an inheritance. I know that some people will probably get upset over this but what can I do? That’s what I’ve discovered in all my research and please don’t ask me to name sources right now because I “discovered” this a long time ago.

I mean no offence to anyone over this.

[Get Real!]

turkish_cypriot...

Sorry but you are lame!

Adopting "Greek ways" does not make the indigenous people of the Island Greek!

What makes you think I'm interested in having Greek inheritance or even trying to prove such a thing?

OPEN UP YOUR EYES AND READ THIS CAREFULLY BECAUSE YOUR SELECTIVE COMPREHENSION IS STARTING TO BORE ME SHITLESS...

The oldest confirmed civilization ruins are dated at around 3500BC at Hirokitia (exactly half way down the Nicosia to Limassol freeway) so if we add the two together we roughly get… 3500BC + 2000AD = 5,500 years of known indigenous existence on Cyprus.

The Myceans are IRRELEVANT to the whole story EXCEPT for the ORIGINS of GREEK CULTURE.

Agnadoun?

[T_C]

No mate it is YOU boring me shitless!

What part of indigenous means NATURALLY OCCURING do YOU NOT UNDERSTAND?

Were the people of Cyprus ORIGINALLY, NATURALLY Greek to begin with?

It was you that brought up the Mycaeneans, you say "our Greekness was imported" but that is my point. I'm not arguing with the fact you say you've been there a long time but Cypriots werent naturally Greek!

It was an import (your words, not mine), an import contradicts the whole point of the word INDIGENOUS!

[humanist]

what are "Greek Ways" excactly?

people the question here is do we want to live together as cypriots or not? if the answer is yes then we need to work together to find a solution if the answer is no welll then we are sorry excuses for human beings.

i have decided that I am a turkish cypriot who speaks greek because my cypriot customs are closer to a turkish speaking cypriots than a greek.

i would really like response. have a nice day!

[Viewpoint]

what are "Greek Ways" excactly?

people the question here is do we want to live together as cypriots or not? if the answer is yes then we need to work together to find a solution if the answer is no welll then we are sorry excuses for human beings.

i have decided that I am a turkish cypriot who speaks greek because my cypriot customs are closer to a turkish speaking cypriots than a greek.

i would really like response. have a nice day!

Everyone is free to choose what they want to be a TC GC or Martian, its what they majority in each community feel the want collectively that is important for example 76% gave a resounding NO and 65% said YES, yet 2% from each side didn't know what the hell they wanted but it didn't change the end result.