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Kikapu

By the way, I do not hear any Turks from Turkey, living in Turkey, claiming to be "Turkish Cypriots". You would think, since we are all the same, they too would claim to be same as us, as some of us claim to be as same as them.

This is the silliest comment I have read in ages, did you really think this through? We came from Turkey not them from Cyprus. We do not claim to be exactly the same as Turks but we know where and I know you will hate this your origins stem from.

[pitsilos]

how do you know you came from turkey.

can you prove your origins are from 400 years ago?

can you prove you are not a christian convert?

[Kikapu]

Kikapu

By the way, I do not hear any Turks from Turkey, living in Turkey, claiming to be "Turkish Cypriots". You would think, since we are all the same, they too would claim to be same as us, as some of us claim to be as same as them.

This is the silliest comment I have read in ages, did you really think this through? We came from Turkey not them from Cyprus. We do not claim to be exactly the same as Turks but we know where and I know you will hate this your origins stem from.

Yes VP, everything is silly to you, when you want them to be.

My twin sister is married to a great man from Turkey, in Turkey, and they have 3 grown up children, and non of the children claim to be Cypriots, but only Turks from Turkey, because that is where they were born, raised and cultured. The only thing that is a little different with them, from the rest of the Turks in Turkey is, that their mother is from Cyprus and that she speaks Turkish.

So how far do you want to go back, before Turks from Turkey can make claims, that they are from the Far East somewhere. Taking your examples as to who we are and where we came from, why don't you go much further East, rather than coming to a halt, in Turkey. Did you think that Turks just popped out of the ground, in Turkey, or what. You don't want to accept your Cypriotness is one thing, but trying to attach yourself to another culture that is very different than yours, in every way, is a sign of someone who is "lost" and trying to find out who he really is. Lets hope most Turkish Cypriots stopped looking 300-400 years ago.

Send us a post card when you get there VP, and good luck.

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Kikapu

By the way, I do not hear any Turks from Turkey, living in Turkey, claiming to be "Turkish Cypriots". You would think, since we are all the same, they too would claim to be same as us, as some of us claim to be as same as them.

This is the silliest comment I have read in ages, did you really think this through? We came from Turkey not them from Cyprus. We do not claim to be exactly the same as Turks but we know where and I know you will hate this your origins stem from.

Yes VP, everything is silly to you, when you want them to be.

My twin sister is married to a great man from Turkey, in Turkey, and they have 3 grown up children, and non of the children claim to be Cypriots, but only Turks from Turkey, because that is where they were born, raised and cultured. The only thing that is a little different with them, from the rest of the Turks in Turkey is, that their mother is from Cyprus and that she speaks Turkish.

So how far do you want to go back, before Turks from Turkey can make claims, that they are from the Far East somewhere. Taking your examples as to who we are and where we came from, why don't you go much further East, rather than coming to a halt, in Turkey. Did you think that Turks just popped out of the ground, in Turkey, or what. You don't want to accept your Cypriotness is one thing, but trying to attach yourself to another culture that is very different than yours, in every way, is a sign of someone who is "lost" and trying to find out who he really is. Lets hope most Turkish Cypriots stopped looking 300-400 years ago.

Send us a post card when you get there VP, and good luck.

It is really related to the upbringing of the child, your sister has not been sucessful in instilling or nurturing the TC"ness in her children. They probably know nothing of their mothers culture or birth place, have they ever been to the TRNC?. I have an uncle married to lady from Turkey and his children consider themselves 75% Turkish Cypriot as their mothers father was also a Turkish Cypriot, and they love the TRNC and the TC people.

It is all down to mentality and I love both my Turkishness and Cypriot side, I always have always will do. The fact that you feel more Cypriot than Turkish is your choice and right but you have no right to deny or influence mine

We TCs stem from Turkey and the GCs from Greece, why are you in denial? must be something to do with the 40 odd years you have lived in foreign lands as a foreigner.

I understand the "Cypriotism" you want to spread but under the past and current circumstances this is not possible as you are fully aware. We feel we belong to 2 different entities and this has been nearly all my life no one can just change over night.

[karma]

I think Cypriots r a mixture of Greeks, Turks, Latins and Arabs..so you all are wasting ur times trying to find your origin...I m afraid u ll be very disapointed incase u come to find any clue

[pitsilos]

We TCs stem from Turkey and the GCs from Greece, why are you in denial? must be something to do with the 40 odd years you have lived in foreign lands as a foreigner

wrong

refer to the euro coin, the one you spat the dummy on. not everyone is from greece, and no everyone is from turkey

prove you are from turkey. further more the ottomans weren't turkish. turkey wasn't invented yet

yes you speak a turkish dilect and you are a muslim but that doesn't mean nothing. you could be a greek as much as me being an ottoman

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The well know ex eoka Turk hater Papadop has awarded the Makarios medal to the French MP Patrick Deveciyan of Armenian origin and architect of the Armenian "Genocide" bill in France we all know and love

Funny how the Turks kill millions and then use the word genocide in quotes, but when they have a few 100s of victims of their own they are quick to make huge gross exaggerations and call that a genocide and present themselves as the Virgin Mary.

If by "Turk" you mean the barbarian Turkish mentality of the middle ages, that you and many other Turks unfortunately still have, then every decent person has to hate what you stand for and fight against you. Because those are the Turks that those "Turk haters" hate, and not the civilized decent Turks like some of the other members of our forum.

[Kikapu]

It is really related to the upbringing of the child, your sister has not been sucessful in instilling or nurturing the TC"ness in her children. They probably know nothing of their mothers culture or birth place, have they ever been to the TRNC?. I have an uncle married to lady from Turkey and his children consider themselves 75% Turkish Cypriot as their mothers father was also a Turkish Cypriot, and they love the TRNC and the TC people.

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The kids were raised in Turkey, therefore, they took on the identity of Turkey, which is normal in every sense. They do dot have to look else where, to find their origins. The same goes to me and my twin sister. We were born in Cyprus and that remains to be our origin. Over time, she has adopted the identity and customs of Turkey, which is also normal, but she remains a Cypriot, and one cannot change that.

My nephew does come to the "TRNC" on regular basis, to probably gamble and womanize, with his parents money. Oh, he also used his mothers Cypriotness, to pay the "TRNC" "military money" so to get out of doing military service in Turkey. So you see, even my nephew will become a "Cypriot" for a short time, if it serves his interest.

It is not a question of loving the "TRNC" or not. I'm sure they feel, it is part of Turkey now, so they have no problem accepting it and loving it, but would never dare to cross into the RoC, so you see, they do not accept their mothers Cypriotness 100%, since they do not accept all of her country.

For example, you now claim to be a citizen of the "TRNC" first, and roots stemming to Turkey second. How come you don't include the RoC also, the country you were born in, which the RoC was the "last stop" for you before reaching the "TRNC" from Turkey.

Look VP, call yourself what you want. I know where I was born, and what to call myself, no matter how long I have been away from Cyprus, as if that would change anything. I only have one set of "finger prints" on me, and no matter how much I want to wash it of, it will always remain to be "Cypriot finger prints", and I do not need to go and look for further "set of prints" of my historic past, else where.

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The well know ex eoka Turk hater Papadop has awarded the Makarios medal to the French MP Patrick Deveciyan of Armenian origin and architect of the Armenian "Genocide" bill in France we all know and love

Funny how the Turks kill millions and then use the word genocide in quotes, but when they have a few 100s of victims of their own they are quick to make huge gross exaggerations and call that a genocide and present themselves as the Virgin Mary.

If by "Turk" you mean the barbarian Turkish mentality of the middle ages, that you and many other Turks unfortunately still have, then every decent person has to hate what you stand for and fight against you. Because those are the Turks that those "Turk haters" hate, and not the civilized decent Turks like some of the other members of our forum.

No you are OK Papadop hates all Turks full stop, no ifs no buts.

As for the so called Armenian "Genocide" has it been proven? NO

I have never said Genocide for TCs happened but risk of annihilation yes, how long did they say in the Clerides book 1 hour 45 minutes to kill all the TCs?

[Kikapu]

how long did they say in the Clerides book 1 hour 45 minutes to kill all the TCs?

WOW, they must have done a rehearsal using a Swiss watch to be that accurate. Lets see. 100,000 TC all dead in 1 hour and 45 minutes.

That comes to 952 killings per minute.

I don't know about the accuracy of their watch, I mean, there were 700 of us TC's captured in 1963 and all in one place, and even I think, it would have take more that 44 seconds to kill us all.