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[miltiades]

yes miltiades, you are absolutely right, lets all count on America to save the day, after all that is what they are best at right? i mean someone has to go out and get the "evil doers", or who knows what kind of a world we would be living in, if it wasn't for the heroic Americans....

Yes young man , it was with American help that democracy won and survives today. It was the Marshal plan that resurrected a crippled Europe , it was America the promised land that welcomed the millions of Europeans and YES it was America who objected fiercely to world domination by the Communists of Russia , and it is America who will fight the terror that the civilized world is today facing from medieval terrorism that knows no humanity values , the terrorists who proudly proclaim that they value death more than we value life. The sub human savages who would no hesitate to take out the entire world since they are totaly convinced that they will enter paradise. Stupid bastards !

[shahmaran]

right....


for some reason i just fail to see it in that way

[miltiades]

Shah , my young friend , if you were around in 1945 -46 in war devastated Europe and bringing up a family with young hungry kids you would NOT FAIL to see it in this way . My father was and so was my father in law .

[shahmaran]

well my OLD FRIEND, you werent either, however i still dont think that just because America saved the day over 60 years ago, doesnt make them any less guilty today...

[miltiades]

Shah , you seem to think that refering to someone as "old" is derogatory , in fact is quite the opposite since the older one gets the wiser he becomes , and of course wise enough to know the alternative to getting old.
So you think that the USA should have accepted the 9/11 attacks and do nothing about it do you .

[Kikapu]

Shah , you seem to think that refering to someone as "old" is derogatory , in fact is quite the opposite since the older one gets the wiser he becomes , and of course wise enough to know the alternative to getting old.
So you think that the USA should have accepted the 9/11 attacks and do nothing about it do you .

Miltiades,

After 9/11, we went to Afghanistan to take care of all those, that did that deed. Nobody disputes that. It is only when we did not finish the mission we set out to do, and 5 years on, we are still killing and and being killed in this place, because hand full of NeoCons, went into Iraq, when we did not have to. We could have taken care of Saddam in many ways, after we had finished the job in Afghanistan. Now we are fighting on all fronts, and if we lose now, I hate to think about tomorrow, in the Middle East.

[miltiades]

Kikapu , America HAD to act. Numerous mistakes have been made , every one knows that ,. But the biggest mistake of them all would have been non action from America.

[Kikapu]

Kikapu , America HAD to act. Numerous mistakes have been made , every one knows that ,. But the biggest mistake of them all would have been non action from America.

You need to separate Afghanistan from Iraq, then we will all agree with you, that's all.

[shahmaran]

Shah , you seem to think that refering to someone as "old" is derogatory , in fact is quite the opposite since the older one gets the wiser he becomes , and of course wise enough to know the alternative to getting old.
So you think that the USA should have accepted the 9/11 attacks and do nothing about it do you .

miltiades, i usually have the utter most respect for my elderly considering it is reciprocal, I'm not saying it to be derogatory, just pointing out how annoying it is to address someone by their age, and I'm sure you are not doing it to compliment me, if its not "young man" then it is usually "young punk"...

however, yes America did act in many occasions, they acted when they left the people of Afghanistan in the hands of the newly armed Taliban, they acted when they helped Saddam get in power, they acted when they left the Kurds in the hands of Saddam and his new chemical weapons, shortly after getting them to rise up against him, they acted by training Osama, now they are paying for every dodgy and insidious deal they did back in the day, 9/11 was not a coincidence, it was not unexpected, and it definitely was not just "out of the blue"!

However the twisted people who run that country are using 9/11 for their own advantage to expand their hegemony, eventually 9/11 is going to be one of the best things that happened to them, while Iraq is drowning in chaos and its people are getting killed every other day waiting for their so called "saviour" to do what they came to do, where is the democracy and the peace? the country is on the verge of a civil war, and where is the guy who masterminded and executed the 9/11 attacks who they set out to get? in Iraq? how long has it been, 5 years? where are the WMD's? have the terrorist attacks stopped or have they increased? in fact has America done ANYTHING useful apart from executing the only person that was able to bring some kind of stability to Iraq? you know just as well that the answer to all is NO, what America always did best is bomb the shit out of people into submission, and when that fails they pretty much fail as well, lets just see how they are going to pull out of this one...



ps. by the way miltiades, do students get a discount from you page?

[miltiades]

Shah wrote:

"""while Iraq is drowning in chaos and its people are getting killed every other day waiting for their so called "saviour" to do what they came to do, where is the democracy and the peace? """"

Ok I wont call you a young punk , a phrase I used based on your first few posts , quite in order I thought.

Can you therefore promise me that you will spend a few minutes considering who is doing the killing in Iraq , who is the obstacle to peace , who is putting the Iraqi people through living hell , when you truthfully make an an assessment I will offer you , being a student , concessionary prices on my site !!!