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[Kikapu]

:lol: Kikapu I am a male, what made you think I was female? I never said I was female...????

I really do not know, except you did mention using the words "Budana" and "Orosbu" in your first post, when you were taught to exchange insults with the GC's, when you were a small kid in Cyprus.

I just put 2 and 2 together, and as a result, I came up with a female, rather than 4.

[BirKibrisli]

I just dont see the point in denying our origins. If anything I think its wrong to turn a blind eye to our Turkisness/Greekness and say we're "just" Cypriots. We just have to learn to respect and accept eachothers Turkishness/Greekness. It wont solve anything to sweep things under the rug. If we cant accept this fact then we seriously cant move on...we are what we are, Cypriots of Greek/Turkish origin and its about time we just face facts and work on it.

Just about all the TCs I know (and I know A LOT) would never dream of giving up their Cypriotness. We all have a piece of Turkishness but I have yet to meet any TC who is more Turkish then they are Cypriot. We acknowledge our roots but we are very different from people from Turkey and I'm sure the same goes for the GCs too.

As for Ataturk, I think the Ataturk legacy has done a lot for TCs as well. We are more Westernised then people from Turkey by a long shot put it that way. All of Ataturks ideas about humanism before religion and everything else works for me too. As the man himself put it;

"We do not consider our principles as dogmas contained in books said to come from heaven. We derive our inspiration, not from heaven, or the unseen world, but directly from life."

I dont mean to offend anyone by using quotes from Ataturk, I find him inspiring thats all, I'm not trying to provoke anyone.

The reason TCs are more Westernised than mainland Turks has very little to do with Ataturk's legacy,t_c.It has more to do with the fact that we lived in a British colony together with GCs and Armenians and Jews and Maronites and Latins and what have you,for over 120 years.

That is not meant to take any credit away form Ataturk's achievements in his short life.Turkish nation was very lucky to have someone like Ataturk at the helm at their hour of need.He was certainly a brilliant soldier and statesman,but even he would've objected to the way his followers turned him into a Demigod after his death.I am sure you know that one of Ataturk's principles was Devrimcilik (Revolutionism, if you like).He believed in continuous change and reform.He would not be impressed with the way they have set his ideas in concrete,and made it a crime to criticise him...

You can still draw inspiration from Ataturk in private,without imposing him and his ideas on other people who might not see him in the same light as you do...

[free_cyprus]

first of all we do not have a president or a prome minister that represents the cypriot people, we have the sooo called leaders of the north and south representing their supposedly community. to me this si a slap in the face and an insult to whole of cyprus since the only thing that devides the cypriots is christianity and muslims turkish speaking and greek speaking. anyone who studies riligion will tell you that christianity and islam is the same religion. one cannot become a muslim without excepting the teachings of the bible. lets look at spoken language of cyprus the amount of times cyprus has been invaded and occupied in the histroy i m suprised we only speak two languages. when you have people of cyprus arguing over human rights of an individual for example when the cypriots speak of minorety and mojorety they already create a complex. firstly are or are we not cypriots. the answer is yes . but many people in cyprus make the mistake in believing that they are greeks or turks from the mainland of greece or turkey we have nothing to do with these two countries we have an accosiation with them though the spoken language thats foar as it goes. cyriots have not graspted even this simple idea that we are cypriots and we should fight for our right instead we give our rights to turkey and greece as well as britain and america this si disgraceful to all who are the pillors of the comunnity of cyprus all the ay to the so called presidents and their representatives that i do not recognise. when we think as one we will be one when we think in twos and we create divisions.............................................................
heres a simple question for all who read this china is becoming a super power now and in the next 30 years it will over take america as the most powerful nation on the planet ..............heres your question ................if china invaded europe occupied cyprus and forced everyone to learn to speak write and have chinese names ............... will that make us chinese ????????????????????????????????????