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[DT.]

turkish cyp, never mind about Free, he is just a mixed up kid who has no idea. Though I did agree with a couple of his posts. Thanks for sharing you family dynamics if you feel Cypriot then you are.


My friend you have been a gentleman, and the fact that you have resisted the temptation to scould him, proves just that. I also like your thinking.

Thanks Humanist & Pete.

I feel more Cypriot then I do Turkish, I was born in Cyprus, I grew up there, all of my family and friends are there, its my home. I've only been Turkey a few times for a holiday but it doesnt matter, I still have the right to be proud of both my cultures so long as it doesnt have a negative effect on me. I dont see what the problem is in having a Turkish quote or respecting Ataturk.

I'm no angel and I've lost my rag a few times on here, but at least it was because of something more significant to the Cypruts problem then just what someone chooses to call themselves.

nothing wrong with maintaining your ethnic origins whether they be greek or turkish. As long as we're all on this island it would be good to focus on the cypriotness in ourselves however you cannot deny who and where you come from.

Free Cyprus, you need to tone it down a notch if you're gonna get someone listening to you in this forum.

[BirKibrisli]

turkish_cypriot,
Hello from an old Turkish Cypriot to a new turkish_cypriot...
Mate,you represent the new face of Turkish Cypriots and thus you have enormous responsibility and a big role to play in solving the problems of our beloved motherland,Cyprus. If you keep pushing your Turkishness you will be part of the problem.But if you keep pushing your Cypriotness you will be part of the solution.Being a Turkish Cypriot is respecting the human rights of all Cypriots,and putting their welfare ahead of all political or economic considerations.Being a real Turkish Cypriot is declaring that you have one motherland and that is Cyprus.What is good for Cyprus and all her people without any sectarian considerations,is what should happen in Cyprus. I look forward to the time when I can welcome you with open arms to the True Cypriot Party .

Let me give you a little elder brotherly advice: Abicim,take that quote by Ataturk off your signature.Not all Cypriots consider Ataturk a national hero,and I believe you should respect their sensibilities.In any case if you believe in that saying "That political power (egemenlik) is not given but taken",then you would be on the right track if you believe Turkish Cypriots should work hard for their right to wield political power.At the moment they have none...

[shahmaran]

Bir, i think specially Cypriots as a whole should take note of that quote from Ataturk, as its not just the TCs that need to break away from their "mother land", am i wrong? he might be the leader of the Turks, but most of his ideas can apply to everyone...

Also i don't see why GCs should be offended by Ataturk, unless they are "feeling it" for their mother land, AND i, as a TC, find your signature a LOT more offensive... and in a way i think it very much agrees with the quote from Ataturk that is being discussed, but from a different angle, don't you think?

[OB1]

i think its disgracefull tht some wankers on here actuly display turkish or greek flag in this forum....................if you want to dispay turkish or greek flags then go to e greek or turkish forum opppsssssssssssss didi say go i mean to say fuck offfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

whats wrong with that my friend? Is it because they use flags or is it because they use Turkish and Hellenic flags?.....If this really bothers you then what you're actually doing is promoting sides, anger and disputes. So what is it you want....

[Viewpoint]

What are you talking about? OMG child just stop chatting shit PLEASE!

Im born in Cyprus, my mums Cypriot my dads Turkish, so that would make me a Turkish Cypriot. What is wrong with that? I have nothing against Greek, GC people so why are you telling me to change who I am to try and fix something that isnt broken? It doesnt do me harm to identify with my roots nor does it twist my judgement.

And about Ataturk....SO WHAT? Who are you to judge me on my signature? I already told you I have family in Turkey so I have the right to identify with both my cultures. Its like telling a mixed race person to choose between their white side of the family or their black side of the family. I have a bit of both Cypriot and Turkish in my blood so what I choose to call myself should be of no concern to you.

Just because someone calls themselves Greek Cypriot as opposed to Greek 'speaking' Cypriot doesnt mean they are wrong or currupted, where is the logic in that?!?!? Furthermore, if you find that logic I suggest you recycle it and put it to better use next time.

TC well done, I to feel a proud Turkish Cypriot from the TRNC and identify with what you are saying dont let comments made by free-Cyprus upset you as they bear no importance, everyone has the right to label themselves whatever they want, that feeling of belonging comes from within and cannot be forced. So dont let people persuade you either way, you are intelligent enough to make up your own mind.

[BirKibrisli]

Bir, i think specially Cypriots as a whole should take note of that quote from Ataturk, as its not just the TCs that need to break away from their "mother land", am i wrong? he might be the leader of the Turks, but most of his ideas can apply to everyone...

Also i don't see why GCs should be offended by Ataturk, unless they are "feeling it" for their mother land, AND i, as a TC, find your signature a LOT more offensive... and in a way i think it very much agrees with the quote from Ataturk that is being discussed, but from a different angle, don't you think?

Absolutely Sahmaran.That quote applies to everyone and,don't get me wrong,I think Ataturk was spot on.Nobody would give anyone political power on a plate.One has to fight hard for it.And I keep making this point,if Cyprus is to be reunified TCs and GCs will have to work together, learn to trust and respect each other,and demand their sovreignty together.I am also on the record for saying that being numerically and financially the stronger side,the onus is on the GCs to take the initiative in the raprochement stakes...

I am sorry if my signature offended you.It has been there for a long time and I don't mind changing it now that the point has been well and truly made...

[Strahd]

i think its disgracefull tht some wankers on here actuly display turkish or greek flag in this forum....................if you want to dispay turkish or greek flags then go to e greek or turkish forum opppsssssssssssss didi say go i mean to say fuck offfffffffffffffffffffffffffffff

Constitution of the Republic of Cyprus
Appendix D- Part I
Article 4 - paragraph 4

4. Any citizen of the Republic or any body, corporate or unincorporate other than public, whose members are citizens of the Republic, shall have the right to fly on their premises the flag of the Republic or the Greek or the Turkish flag without any restriction.

[T_C]

I just dont see the point in denying our origins. If anything I think its wrong to turn a blind eye to our Turkisness/Greekness and say we're "just" Cypriots. We just have to learn to respect and accept eachothers Turkishness/Greekness. It wont solve anything to sweep things under the rug. If we cant accept this fact then we seriously cant move on...we are what we are, Cypriots of Greek/Turkish origin and its about time we just face facts and work on it.

Just about all the TCs I know (and I know A LOT) would never dream of giving up their Cypriotness. We all have a piece of Turkishness but I have yet to meet any TC who is more Turkish then they are Cypriot. We acknowledge our roots but we are very different from people from Turkey and I'm sure the same goes for the GCs too.

As for Ataturk, I think the Ataturk legacy has done a lot for TCs as well. We are more Westernised then people from Turkey by a long shot put it that way. All of Ataturks ideas about humanism before religion and everything else works for me too. As the man himself put it;

"We do not consider our principles as dogmas contained in books said to come from heaven. We derive our inspiration, not from heaven, or the unseen world, but directly from life."

I dont mean to offend anyone by using quotes from Ataturk, I find him inspiring thats all, I'm not trying to provoke anyone.

[Kikapu]

All very interesting posts made by all, but still, I'm very confused.

Why is everyone is calling "turkish-cypriot" a he, him, mate and so on.

@ T_C,

I thought from the very first post you made on the forum, that you were a she / her.

Did I get this wrong or what.

Please help me out Turkish-Cypriot.

[T_C]

Kikapu I am a male, what made you think I was female? I never said I was female...????