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Time for a declaration of independence

How can we solve it? (keep it civilized)

Postby pitsilos » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:09 pm

too late he is already had the breakfast of the champions and it looks like donkeys years before he has it again :lol:
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:10 pm

Pitsilos,

I have been meaning to address this " Water of a Duck's Back" since few days ago, but as you know, we were all distracted a little.

It was City Slickers II.
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Postby zan » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:12 pm

Is it just me or are all my last three posts reading 1971. If they are then that explains it.....I think.
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Postby pitsilos » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:13 pm

it could have been, and both are great movies :lol: but its a well used phrase down under :lol:

have you seen midnight run with robert de niro? now that's a classic.
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Postby Kikapu » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:32 pm

pitsilos wrote:it could have been, and both are great movies :lol: but its a well used phrase down under :lol:

have you seen midnight run with robert de niro? now that's a classic.


I have it in my collection, my man.
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Postby pitsilos » Mon Feb 26, 2007 5:35 pm

man you are the best, it looks like we re junkies to comedy :lol: i also got them all :lol:

we have to definetely meet one day and compare notes :lol:

and with this i say goodnight to everyone. and stay cool :lol:
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Postby humanist » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:03 am

Welcome back Zan,

Personally i found the article extremely welll written and educational as well as inspiring. The last sentence was beautiful, let us all celebrate the 24th of April as Independece Day, and declare the buffer zone as a national peace park. Those with properties within the buffer zone, will be compensated for their property this is for the unity of our people the Cypriots and those near by you'll have views of a park.
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Postby free_cyprus » Wed Feb 28, 2007 3:01 pm

first of all we do not have a president or a prome minister that represents the cypriot people, we have the sooo called leaders of the north and south representing their supposedly community. to me this si a slap in the face and an insult to whole of cyprus since the only thing that devides the cypriots is christianity and muslims turkish speaking and greek speaking. anyone who studies riligion will tell you that christianity and islam is the same religion. one cannot become a muslim without excepting the teachings of the bible. lets look at spoken language of cyprus the amount of times cyprus has been invaded and occupied in the histroy i m suprised we only speak two languages. when you have people of cyprus arguing over human rights of an individual for example when the cypriots speak of minorety and mojorety they already create a complex. firstly are or are we not cypriots. the answer is yes . but many people in cyprus make the mistake in believing that they are greeks or turks from the mainland of greece or turkey we have nothing to do with these two countries we have an accosiation with them though the spoken language thats foar as it goes. cyriots have not graspted even this simple idea that we are cypriots and we should fight for our right instead we give our rights to turkey and greece as well as britain and america this si disgraceful to all who are the pillors of the comunnity of cyprus all the ay to the so called presidents and their representatives that i do not recognise. when we think as one we will be one when we think in twos and we create divisions.............................................................
heres a simple question for all who read this china is becoming a super power now and in the next 30 years it will over take america as the most powerful nation on the planet ..............heres your question ................if china invaded europe occupied cyprus and forced everyone to learn to speak write and have chinese names ............... will that make us chinese ????????????????????????????????????
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Postby humanist » Wed Feb 28, 2007 11:10 pm

Free I like you, when are you running for president? My friend you are very right the problem is the fact that we do not identify as cypiot because if we did then there would be no problem.

However, in light of the online media's recent reports, I am becoming of the view that Turkey has so much power over those cypriots who speak turkish and currently living in the north that it is impossible to reach a peaceful solution because turkey is driving the ship.

However, it is not all doom, though the hard decision is for those cypriots who currently live in the north, if they decide they want unification in a united cyprus wher all cypriots live together in peace then it can happen, however those cypriots speaking turkish and / or living in the north hold the key to a peaceful solution. If they voted with their feet and sought refuge in the south and I believe this will happen as they realise that they can be safe in the south and can share the economic develpoment and health infrastructures available there will be a immigration to the south. However aside from this last point if they seek refuge to the south and the number of cypriots identifying as turkish speaking, in the south exceeds the numbers of those living in the north, then turkey will have no leg to stand on or at least turkey will not have an argument of the so called protection of turkish speaking cypriots. this will lead the international community to question turkey's occupation of cyprus. Now with more turkish speaking cypriots n the south sharing the resources and socio-economic/ cultural doain of life and with turkey's aspiration to join the EU , the only action that turkey could take is the withdrwal of its army and thus allowing a unified cyprus.
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Postby free_cyprus » Thu Mar 01, 2007 10:13 am

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how can we have a free cyprus when we have to leave the north or the south as refuggees to find peace. for me there is no north or south but cyprus a whole. you are right though turkey does drive the ship in the north but the reality of the situation is despite the so called independent republic of cyprus behind the scenes greece is driving the ship in the south, these two countries have in the past had a proxy war and it was fought in cyprus with the cost of cypriot lives. greece and turkey are great friends a independent nations, they had empires in the past where cyprus was part of that empire. but since they lost everything in terms of power they like to feel important. ............................... here is a simple question for everyone in this forum how can an independent island that is not joined to any other land in the world be claimed as part of any other land. the only way this is doen is through the people believign that they belong and speaking turkish and greek on the island of cyprus they believe they are turkish and greek. we have never had an identity in cyprus histroy shows cyprus is one of the very few places on this planet where it has never had freedom in the history of the world.ever since the first invasions till now.i believe greek speaking and turkish speaking people of cyprus are one and the same people. through defoult of speakign turking and greek they automaticaly think they are grek and turks. i have had people defent that they are soo greek that their cypriot heritage goes back to greece and the same with turkish speaking.on a personal note i find this incredible and a false belief. not only the greek and trukish speaking cypriots are fanatics in protecting their identity as greeks and turks but they actualy psychologicaly carry this belief abroad and they have a foreign policy to devide and rule people. i have had personal experiances through meeting goverment officials turkish speaking and greek speaking cypriots. thats why i will never give into them i rather stand alone in my couse to except cyprus as a whole then to sell myself out to those brain washed pullars of community. as the proverb goes. IT IS BETTER TO BE ALONE THEN IN BAD COMPANY............. greek speaking and turkish speeeking so called goverment officials abroad have the same policy devide and rule.................. one of the greatest tragedies in this forum is when say something people auromaticaly turkish speaking and greek speaking think i speak without experiance and without knowladge os what i m saying the truth of the matter is i have personal first hand experiance becouse what i m involved with puts me in contact with goverment officials that speak turkish and greek and they are the same thing i wouldnt vote for them to sweep my mandra.let alone to be in the positive they are in goverment offices.
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