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[Kikapu]

listen dude, enough with your irony..I did not claim I represent anybody because I sign with my own name, hence I represent myself. And to tell you the truth the GC would be the last people in the world I would chose to represent. who do you represent here anyway? can you represent anybody? and i do not consider myself a GC bu a CYPRIOT! Can you understand this or shall I repeat myself?

Why don't you go and have your coffee now, because you're getting a little irritable.

Better make it a Turkish coffee. It will be the next best thing to VP.

[michalis5354]

My family house is near the borders and I always had this fear when I was walking near the borders especially at night. When I found myslef accidentally passing from these roads and I was alone I had to run and run to avoid being shot in the head by a Turk- I alwlays had this image of a Turk in the back of my mind that will shoot me .

[fanourıo]

Michalis, I am open;y inviting you to come to the North when you can, and i am sure that if you see that I leave my car unlocked outside my house, the set of fears that exist because of the brainwash you had from your own teachers and from the polluted Greek Cypriot Society, members of which still ask me if it is safe to visit the North, then these fears will vanish into thin air!

[nemski]

The fears and scars of Cypriots and the consistent daily reminders over the years is what stops them from seeing the truth. My grandmother (80yrs) met a Turkish Cypriot person, at an event in Lefkosia last month, for the first time in 32 years and she was surprised at how 'polite and friendly' he was and also that he was educated! of course her mindset has been that all Turkish-cypriots are 'barbaric' and living in the middle ages... She is living proof that these attitudes can easily change in just a short meeting. Im glad that she had this opportunity before she dies.
Good night all, you guys should get some rest!

[Viewpoint]

Yes, as a result of my work which involves communicating with mainly the arts professionals on both sides. Before having met any Turkish Cypriots in Cyprus I had been brainwashed to hate 'Turkish' people and anything 'Turkish'. Until a couple of years ago, for example, if I ever accidentally tuned into a Turkish radio station I would automatically switch it off, I couldnt even listen to a Turkish voice! Since having had the opportunity to mix, even on a small scale, with Turkish-Cypriot people my views and behaviour has totally changed. I am disgusted at the racist way I was brought up to think and I understand now that the only way for all of us to move forward (and to encourage people to move forward!) is for the different communities to come into contact, if only for 5 minutes.
Both my family and my husband's family are all refugees who have all lost, emotional, material, psychological. What I know for certain is that I do not want to see my son growing up into the bitterness and hatred that I myself witnessed, no one can want this for their children surely?

I applaud your comments well done I only wish there were more GCs like you but unfortunately many are not sincere or genuine and very superficial. This we can sense and makes us very apprehensive about uniting with the GC community.

[shahmaran]

Kikapu i don't think VP is saying we cant live together, from what i understand, he is saying that the GCs are not doing anything that can be perceived as peaceful or as an act of will towards unity, the TCs have shown that they want a solution, but the GCs refused it, and still insist on making life hard for all of us for some reason, while -ironically- preaching about human rights...

this is what i see VP repeat relentlessly, while being labeled as a propaganda merchant and i fail to understand why..

Shah,

VP has his agendas. If he was for a settlement, that's what he would be talking about, all the time, not when he gets cornered in between his propaganda talks. If the GC's are not doing enough towards a settlement, then lets point out all those failures day and night, to shame them, right.

In the meantime, lets show the GC's what is it that we're doing, to promote a solution day in and day out, right.

Then we can compare who is doing what, or not as the case may be, right.


PS. Shah,

I like your avatar, but I swear, every time I read your posts, it comes out as if you're shouting all the time. I can never tell if you're being nice or mean, because the impression I get is, you're always bloody shouting at us.

People, is it me, or you get the same feeling also.

well i think he is just responding to the constant Turk-bashing that is going on around here, most GCs here are acting like Turks are the only obstacle in front of peace and because there are only few of us defending our side and rights, it might come accross to be like that...

ps. I'm not shouting, if i want to emphasize a word i usually type it in capital, and in reality, I'm probably the most quiet person about

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu i don't think VP is saying we cant live together, from what i understand, he is saying that the GCs are not doing anything that can be perceived as peaceful or as an act of will towards unity, the TCs have shown that they want a solution, but the GCs refused it, and still insist on making life hard for all of us for some reason, while -ironically- preaching about human rights...

this is what i see VP repeat relentlessly, while being labeled as a propaganda merchant and i fail to understand why..

Thank you Shah at last someone who understands what I am saying, some people just dont want to see or are unable to comprehend what I have been saying all along and are quick to label anyone so they do not have to deal with them. This is exactly what many have been doing and of course those sheep that follow no what.

[fanourıo]

VP are we going to have that coffee or not??

[Viewpoint]

Kikapu i don't think VP is saying we cant live together, from what i understand, he is saying that the GCs are not doing anything that can be perceived as peaceful or as an act of will towards unity, the TCs have shown that they want a solution, but the GCs refused it, and still insist on making life hard for all of us for some reason, while -ironically- preaching about human rights...

this is what i see VP repeat relentlessly, while being labeled as a propaganda merchant and i fail to understand why..

Shah,

VP has his agendas. If he was for a settlement, that's what he would be talking about, all the time, not when he gets cornered in between his propaganda talks. If the GC's are not doing enough towards a settlement, then lets point out all those failures day and night, to shame them, right.

In the meantime, lets show the GC's what is it that we're doing, to promote a solution day in and day out, right.

Then we can compare who is doing what, or not as the case may be, right.


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Shame on you Kikapu, didnt we agree on most of your proposals? you have yet to argue one issue we support and this really makes me question your agenda.

[Viewpoint]

VP are we going to have that coffee or not??

Thanks for the offer greatly appreciated but Id prefer to keep my identity private. I hope you understand and respect my wishes.