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[shahmaran]

[quote="LENA
I ask you so many times VP...what exactly is that you want GC to do? Dont tell me again to run in the streets please!!!

And you havent reply to my second question!! The TCs WANT a solution yes or no? Or should i go back and find the thread about that?

Didnt we clarify this before?

Your ex eoka Turk hater leader could accept to meet regularly with Talat.

The "RoC" could take steps to support the Cypriots in the north by allowing direct flights and trade.

Allow Gcs to freely without fear apply to the property commission for property rights.

Negoatiate the settlers and army issues and the procedure moving forward.

These spring to mind, this would allow the level playing field I go on about.

Listen here moush , you are a constant pain in the backside since we all know that you are a propagandist working 24 hours a day for the regime in the occupied part of Cyprus that wants nothing more than the assimilation of the northern part of Cyprus in to a greater Turkey . You keep on with your usual crap ignoring common sense and realities , you have been given one phrase "level playing field " of which you do not understand the full meaning and you keep regurgitating like a pregnant fox.
Are you asking the ONLY Legitimate government of Cyprus to recognise that the 40 thousand occupying troops , as well as the thousands of illegal settlers should be welcomed with open arms , allow direct flights to the NON RECOGNISED occupied part of Cyprus ? Well here is your answer in your own perverted language . The " USA " the " the "UK" the "EU" as well as the "UN " do not recognise the trnc !!! Horrey , we all bloody illegal apart from VPs, imaginative nation. I should ask for a pay rise if I were you on the grounds of absurdity claims !

and so the "commonn sense" speaks.....

[fanourıo]

kahve?

[nemski]

The people of Cyprus are victimised by over 30 years of intense social, political and media conditioning, but over time as the divided communities are mixing more and more, Cypriots are starting to realise and remember how in fact they have always had far more in common with eachother than not. And that at the end of the day we are all people.
Actually the Cyprus problem is no longer an issue of 'Greek' and 'Turkish', it goes far deeper and has twisted into an insular and self-obsessed society rife with xenophobia, racism and a lack of respect for creative expression and originality.
What Cyprus needs now more than ever is People Power...

[Viewpoint]

[quote="LENA
I ask you so many times VP...what exactly is that you want GC to do? Dont tell me again to run in the streets please!!!

And you havent reply to my second question!! The TCs WANT a solution yes or no? Or should i go back and find the thread about that?

Didnt we clarify this before?

Your ex eoka Turk hater leader could accept to meet regularly with Talat.

The "RoC" could take steps to support the Cypriots in the north by allowing direct flights and trade.

Allow Gcs to freely without fear apply to the property commission for property rights.

Negoatiate the settlers and army issues and the procedure moving forward.

These spring to mind, this would allow the level playing field I go on about.

Listen here moush , you are a constant pain in the backside since we all know that you are a propagandist working 24 hours a day for the regime in the occupied part of Cyprus that wants nothing more than the assimilation of the northern part of Cyprus in to a greater Turkey . You keep on with your usual crap ignoring common sense and realities , you have been given one phrase "level playing field " of which you do not understand the full meaning and you keep regurgitating like a pregnant fox.
Are you asking the ONLY Legitimate government of Cyprus to recognise that the 40 thousand occupying troops , as well as the thousands of illegal settlers should be welcomed with open arms , allow direct flights to the NON RECOGNISED occupied part of Cyprus ? Well here is your answer in your own perverted language . The " USA " the " the "UK" the "EU" as well as the "UN " do not recognise the trnc !!! Horrey , we all bloody illegal apart from VPs, imaginative nation. I should ask for a pay rise if I were you on the grounds of absurdity claims !

You listen old man, we have all moved on because 1960 63 67 74 happened, we are now much wiser and we are now divided into 2 states one recognized more than the other... what part of level playing field do you have difficulty understanding? why dont you want me to have direct flights? this is not official recognition and we are not asking for it..what are you worried about? dont you want to treat us equals, all I ask for is the same as you? this works both ways, you want land we will give land back, you want army out they will go at the same time as yours etc etc....
You are the ignoring the realities of division and 33 years of no progress due not just one side, you have to accept responsiblity for paying lip service to wanting a BBF solution but doing absoultely nothing to make it happen.
Why do you not want both sides to have exactly the same advantages and disadvantages, do you not see as an equal with the right to on the sane level, it appears you support the arguement of keeping TCs under isolation to ensure the keep wanting a solution, well the more you cling onto thsi philosophy the more Tcs will move away from desiring union with GCs, why cant you see this fact?

And please cut the regurgitated crap about me being a government official its getting very boring and makes you look really stupid as I am no such thing, I wish I was think of all that money Id be making posting on Sundays double who knows even treble salary.

[Simon]

Look Free arsehole, I'm not going to have a history discussion with you anymore, after all, you have already proved that you are pathetically inept at that subject. For example, Greeks and Turks never really settled on Cyprus etc etc. Another one of your classics, "Cut all diplomatic ties with Britain, Turkey and Greece Your a complete idiot mate so debating serious topics with you is pointless.

Oh and LOL - your a boxer and martial artist. That's great news. I don't live in London, I live in Birmingham. Tell me what City or Town you live in and we can arrange to meet up, via private message. You don't want to lower yourself to violence, but you will happily lower yourself to the language used against me previously. So I will await your private message.

[Viewpoint]

LENA lets break down and address your post;

I ask you what we can do…I mean the GC…the people not the government!! If I was government I was not going to ask you!! I was going to act. But you keep telling us that we do not do anything, we don’t want you, we hate you, we bla bla…

I did state that you can get on the streets and protest to your leaders that they are not doing enough to find a solution and that you believe it is them that are the negative side.

You can also get rid of the Turk hater ex eoka man and elect someone who is pro solution who you know will take the necessary steps to bring both sides together for direct talks.

What I can do? Tell to Papadopoulos please can we meet a little bit less so you will be able to meet Talat as well?? You are making fun of me or what???

As ı said above get rid of him...show him you mean business storm his palace, protest make some noise, stay silent and he knows you agree with him which obviously you do.

Support the direct flights??? I must be crazy to do that. To accept an illegal country that is controlled by the occupant of my country??? Is that what you asking me to do? This is the support you are asking from us??? You want to support an illegal state? Prohibited by the law??

If having and operating direct flights is only your right then tell me so I know, is that what you are saying? is that a right only reserved for the GC administration of this island? why cant we to operate our own airport just like you or are we less human than you?

Do you want to sell my country to please you?

Who are selling what to ? no one is selling anything, you are just allowing me to have what you have its called equality, why is that such a problem for you to understand and accept.

Do you want to tell to those refugees and the rest of them f* off I don’t care about you or the government or the country or the law…

No we do not tell them f--k off, we establish dialogue and try to solve this issue by encouraging all refugees to claim their property rights for GCs via the property commission and you set and equivelent in the south for us.

I want unification with the TC so I will show my passport, I will issue visas to go few km far from my house…in my own country?

This will be the ultimate goal but keeping one side at a disadvantage will not take us to where we want to go.

And you want also a fair negotiation for the army and the settlers…and let me guess the fair offer for you…no army for us and the Turks look after us right? Oh and the settlers keep what they earn and what belong to them!!!! Am I right or did I miss anything???

I am not saying this, with reagrds to the army I do not want any army or arms on the island. The settlers issue is not that difficult they will vavcate GC property and be rehoused and allowed to stay under agreed criteria with yourselves, we could even us EU standards that you apply to your own immigrants of which you have 40.000 Pontiacs.

But still didn’t get my answer … THE TC WANT THE UNIFICATION YES OR NO?????? What they have done for themselves???

The only time the TCs were asked about a comprehensive solution for unification they voted YES but your resoundingly voted NO. This was a Un brokered plan prepared by thousands of experts which included both GCs and TCs.

Since the referendum ı can truly say the momentum has been lost as the referndum was result was a hard slap inthe face of TC unificiationsits who have not requestioned their beliefs and the 65% imo is a true reflection of TCs who have now moved closer to a split of a 2 state solution. To change this tide the GCs ahve to take positive steps to prove to TCs that they are sincer and genuine in claiming they want a fair solution as it appears that want a solution which is only fair to them.

[fanourıo]

challenging ... just like .....chicken???

[fanourıo]

QUESTION : CAN GREEKS LIVE WITH GREEKS? How can they stand each other?

[Viewpoint]

The people of Cyprus are victimised by over 30 years of intense social, political and media conditioning, but over time as the divided communities are mixing more and more, Cypriots are starting to realise and remember how in fact they have always had far more in common with eachother than not. And that at the end of the day we are all people.
Actually the Cyprus problem is no longer an issue of 'Greek' and 'Turkish', it goes far deeper and has twisted into an insular and self-obsessed society rife with xenophobia, racism and a lack of respect for creative expression and originality.
What Cyprus needs now more than ever is People Power...

Do you live on the island and mix with the other side??

[fanourıo]

VIEWPOINT give it a break.....they are mostly nationalists...... By the way can you tell me where I can have a coffee with you so that we can prove GC and TC and FC can live together?