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[Viewpoint]

I actually have been back but the people in the house didn't appreciate me asking to come in. I don't really blame them as it is must be a very strange thing having the owners to your house popping by.

Paaul12 i answered yours now you answer mine. Do you live in GC property? I'm just curious to how you found the place and if the owners returned to see it....how that went...etc.

DT do you live in a TC property or did you have 5 more houses located around Cyprus that you could go to in 1974?

[paaul12]

[paaul12]

paaul12 wrote:
You must be aware that the ECHR have directed claimants to pursue their claims through the TRNC before bothering them.


What a moron!


Tell me when exactly has the ECHR directed any claimants to TRashNcan
or even to the so called c"ommittee". I bet you don’t know!

yea about 1400, the ones the ECHR could'nt be bothered to consider, have u put ur claim in yet?

[polis]

paaul12 wrote:
You must be aware that the ECHR have directed claimants to pursue their claims through the TRNC before bothering them.


What a moron!


Tell me when exactly has the ECHR directed any claimants to TRashNcan
or even to the so called c"ommittee". I bet you don’t know!

yea about 1400, the ones the ECHR could'nt be bothered to consider, have u put ur claim in yet?

Nonsense. The ECHR has yet to rule on the so called property commission. In the meantime Turkey will be paying the compensation awarded by the Court to Kalomoira Aresti Xenidi and the court is to award compensation for loss of use of their property to two more Greek Cypriot claimants.

[Pyrpolizer]

paaul12 wrote:
You must be aware that the ECHR have directed claimants to pursue their claims through the TRNC before bothering them.


What a moron!


Tell me when exactly has the ECHR directed any claimants to TRashNcan
or even to the so called c"ommittee". I bet you don’t know!

yea about 1400, the ones the ECHR could'nt be bothered to consider, have u put ur claim in yet?

So when exactly has the ECHR directed those claimants to the pseudo committee you said? I bet you don’t know!

[paaul12]

You might get some sort of perverse satisfaction by calling the TRNC “pseudo” this “occupied” that, and if that is what helps you sleep at night, then I a’int going to stop you, you go right ahead, just bury your heads in the sand and pretend that it will all go away.

On the other hand, back in the real world, you will find that the TRNC does exist, I don’t know where you have been and why you are not aware that The European Court of Human Rights announced its final verdict on the Arestis Case on (7 December) and accepted the Immovable Property Commission which was established in the TRNC last year, as an “internal law procedure“(domestic remedy). Is that clear enough for you?

In its verdict on the Arestis case, the court ordered Turkey to pay an amount of 850-thousand euros, as also envisaged by the Immovable Property Commission, and 35-thousand euros for costs and expenses incurred before the Court in total to Xenides-Arestis in compensation.
It was stressed that the Immovable Property Commission had begun functioning within the framework of ECHR’s suggestion made in March and December 2005 and stated that steps taken by Ankara in this direction were welcomed.


The decision is expected to affect the future of more than 1400 Greek Cypriot cases at the ECHR.


Law experts had considered the ECHR’s decision, which accepted the Immovable Property Commission as an internal law procedure, as a positive development for the Turkish side and stressed that in time all the cases could be directed to the Commission. Experts also said it was important that while deciding on the amount of the compensation the ECHR considered the amount envisaged by the Commission.


The Immovable Property Commission was set up with the aim of creating an internal law procedure for property issues in line with “The Law on Compensation, Exchange and Restitution of the Immovable Property”, which after long debates was approved and put into force on 19 December 2005. The Commission is responsible on implementing the law which envisaged compensation, exchange and restitution of the former Greek Cypriot properties in North Cyprus.

The Commission headed by Sümer Erkmen is composed of seven members, two of which are foreign members.

The Commission, which had received about 80 applications from the Greek Cypriots for their former property in the North and concluded 10 out of them, had also produced a decision for the Arestis case at the ECHR. The Commission offered to pay a total of 460 thousand CYP (Cyprus pounds), 220 thousand CYP of this for the property and 240 thousand CYP for the loss of income, to Arestis who applied to the ECHR requesting compensation for her former property in Varosha. The Commission had sent this offer in written to Arestis’ lawyer.

If i was you i would get myself down to the Property Commission's offices at Atatürk Square in Lefkoþa and stake my claim

[queenslander]

Why would anyone hurry? If the ECHR have stated to pay for the property does that mean they know it is not theirs?

[humanist]

why do you distinguish bettween turkish cyp and settler arent you all turkish??

[polis]

You might get some sort of perverse satisfaction by calling the TRNC “pseudo” this “occupied” that, and if that is what helps you sleep at night, then I a’int going to stop you, you go right ahead, just bury your heads in the sand and pretend that it will all go away.

On the other hand, back in the real world, you will find that the TRNC does exist, I don’t know where you have been and why you are not aware that The European Court of Human Rights announced its final verdict on the Arestis Case on (7 December) and accepted the Immovable Property Commission which was established in the TRNC last year, as an “internal law procedure“(domestic remedy). Is that clear enough for you?

In its verdict on the Arestis case, the court ordered Turkey to pay an amount of 850-thousand euros, as also envisaged by the Immovable Property Commission, and 35-thousand euros for costs and expenses incurred before the Court in total to Xenides-Arestis in compensation.
It was stressed that the Immovable Property Commission had begun functioning within the framework of ECHR’s suggestion made in March and December 2005 and stated that steps taken by Ankara in this direction were welcomed.


The decision is expected to affect the future of more than 1400 Greek Cypriot cases at the ECHR.


Law experts had considered the ECHR’s decision, which accepted the Immovable Property Commission as an internal law procedure, as a positive development for the Turkish side and stressed that in time all the cases could be directed to the Commission. Experts also said it was important that while deciding on the amount of the compensation the ECHR considered the amount envisaged by the Commission.

The Immovable Property Commission was set up with the aim of creating an internal law procedure for property issues in line with “The Law on Compensation, Exchange and Restitution of the Immovable Property”, which after long debates was approved and put into force on 19 December 2005. The Commission is responsible on implementing the law which envisaged compensation, exchange and restitution of the former Greek Cypriot properties in North Cyprus.

This is just wishful thinking. The ECHR has not yet had an opportunity to review the provisions of the so called “Law on Compensation, Exchange and Restitution of the Immovable Property” and has not yet ruled as to whether the so called Property Commission is an effective internal remedy. The issue will be considered by the Court in one of the fourty or so cases that are currently pending before it which the court has already deemed admissible but has not yet made a ruling on the merits. In the meantime, the ECHR will rule on the compensation to be paid by Turkey in two other pending cases in which the court has already ruled on the merits and found that the property rights of the claimants are being violated by Turkey.

[paaul12]

fanourıo wrote:

asses stink!!!! unless they are female, washed and ready i dont touch them.... I Am a Greek Cypriot who lives in the North, in what Sotos does not accept to be called the TRNC. A Greek Cypriot not only can buy land but he can do that TAX FREE!. Claiming land that originally belongs to Greek Cypriots is already underway, some 72 Greek Cypriots have already claimed their land from the relevant committee of the TRNC, and they are heading to a solution, either by compensation or by actual return where it is possible. A Greek Cypriot is free to come to the North and live and work, I am an example. And I dont kiss ass for that! I was offered a job at the University, at Bayrak Radio Television and I also write for a Turkish English speaking newspaper all at the same time and I earn an honest living, something which was impossible in the South. I do not like asses especially when they stink and it does not matter if they are Greek Or Turkish asses... for more details and/or legal matters pls feel free to contact me on [email protected]

polis tells us:

This is just wishful thinking. The ECHR has not yet had an opportunity to review the provisions of the so called “Law on Compensation, Exchange and Restitution of the Immovable Property” and has not yet ruled as to whether the so called Property Commission is an effective internal remedy. The issue will be considered by the Court in one of the fourty or so cases that are currently pending before it which the court has already deemed admissible but has not yet made a ruling on the merits. In the meantime, the ECHR will rule on the compensation to be paid by Turkey in two other pending cases in which the court has already ruled on the merits and found that the property rights of the claimants are being violated by Turkey.

So, is it wishful thinking or not, I guess the 72 Greek Cypriots who have already claimed their land from the relevant committee would call it reality!! But you guys with your heads so deep in the sand will tell us all its not really happening, I say to you wake up and smell the coffee, times are changing, at last.