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Postby supporttheunderdog » Sat Feb 19, 2011 11:54 pm

B25 you are wrong there - Radio Hams may, just like you are I, have strong viewas and be as moral or immoralas the next man , but they are precluded by law from using their ham kit to dicuss race religion and politics:

What is absolutely appalling and be worthy of intergovernment complaint is the attitude of Ofcom in giving credance to the psuedostate body that illegally claims the right to regulate the airwaves of Northern Cyprus.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:08 am

Where have you gone wrong? ......

The controlling power for all radio matters CY is the appropriate department of the Republic Of Cyprus, any refs to Turkish "authorities" are legally meaningless.

Similarly any ref to "Turkish police" has no legal meaning, they are armed militia in the pay of, and under the control of the Turkish Army, and not under the normal civil control to which you and others may be accustomed to in former lives.

But leaving aside the wider political angles, if you operate with the permission of and under the licence of the Republic, having paid their fee, can't see any licensing problems with the Republic or any other international bodies as long as you use the call sign they have asked you to use. If you use other call signs then you run the risk of breaking the terms of your licence. Sure you can understand that we can't have a free for all in the use of call signs. Use the one you have been allocated.

Where has OFCOM gone wrong? ...

Based on various UN resolutions, it's GB Public Policy to recognise the sole authority on the Island as being the Government of the Republic and its departments, and in accordance with those UN Resolutions to do nothing to recognise the Illegal Turkish Occupation Regime or any of its alleged bodies, so OFCOM should be made aware that they should act within GB Public Policy and have no official contact with "authorities" in the Occupied Areas of the type you describe in your post.
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Postby B25 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:32 am

supporttheunderdog wrote:B25 you are wrong there - Radio Hams may, just like you are I, have strong viewas and be as moral or immoralas the next man , but they are precluded by law from using their ham kit to dicuss race religion and politics:

What is absolutely appalling and be worthy of intergovernment complaint is the attitude of Ofcom in giving credance to the psuedostate body that illegally claims the right to regulate the airwaves of Northern Cyprus.


agreed, you put it so much better than I. Top man.
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Postby bill cobbett » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:36 am

B25 wrote:
supporttheunderdog wrote:B25 you are wrong there - Radio Hams may, just like you are I, have strong viewas and be as moral or immoralas the next man , but they are precluded by law from using their ham kit to dicuss race religion and politics:

What is absolutely appalling and be worthy of intergovernment complaint is the attitude of Ofcom in giving credance to the psuedostate body that illegally claims the right to regulate the airwaves of Northern Cyprus.


agreed, you put it so much better than I. Top man.


WTF! ... spend half-an-hour on my authoritative post... and what bleeding acknowledgement does it get? .... Bugger All! .... Ungrateful Lot!..... :D ... but yes SPOT was SPOT-ON as well.
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Postby Get Real! » Sun Feb 20, 2011 1:38 am

g7paf wrote:So again without race religion or politics tell me why i was wrong

Well at the very least you have pissed off a lot of people it seems, so there MUST be something wrong in all your actions!

Secondly, why dig up a 4 year old thread? Did you not see it the first time?
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Postby Paphitis » Sun Feb 20, 2011 2:10 am

bill cobbett wrote:Where have you gone wrong? ......

The controlling power for all radio matters CY is the appropriate department of the Republic Of Cyprus, any refs to Turkish "authorities" are legally meaningless.

Similarly any ref to "Turkish police" has no legal meaning, they are armed militia in the pay of, and under the control of the Turkish Army, and not under the normal civil control to which you and others may be accustomed to in former lives.

But leaving aside the wider political angles, if you operate with the permission of and under the licence of the Republic, having paid their fee, can't see any licensing problems with the Republic or any other international bodies as long as you use the call sign they have asked you to use. If you use other call signs then you run the risk of breaking the terms of your licence. Sure you can understand that we can't have a free for all in the use of call signs. Use the one you have been allocated.

Where has OFCOM gone wrong? ...

Based on various UN resolutions, it's GB Public Policy to recognise the sole authority on the Island as being the Government of the Republic and its departments, and in accordance with those UN Resolutions to do nothing to recognise the Illegal Turkish Occupation Regime or any of its alleged bodies, so OFCOM should be made aware that they should act within GB Public Policy and have no official contact with "authorities" in the Occupied Areas of the type you describe in your post.


Very good post Bill.

If I may also add, the Radio Amatuer Society is highly regulated and technical. There are international regulations pertaining the use of the radio spectrum and each nation has its own regulatory body. HAM is completely different to CB. To get a licence, you need to pass some electronics exams and even achieve a morse code proficiency of at least 10 words per minute send and receive to get an unrestricted licence.

The community take Piracy quite seriously. In Cyprus there is only one regulatory body and any callsigns issued by the occupation regime can only be considered an act of Piracy by every other LEGAL HAM authority.

It is also illegal for a licenced HAM operator in another country to communicate with a Pirate Station. For example, a HAM operator in Australia should be able to recognise a legitimate RoC callsign and an illegal callsign issued by the occupation regime.
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Postby B25 » Sun Feb 20, 2011 12:04 pm

bill cobbett wrote:Where have you gone wrong? ......

The controlling power for all radio matters CY is the appropriate department of the Republic Of Cyprus, any refs to Turkish "authorities" are legally meaningless.

Similarly any ref to "Turkish police" has no legal meaning, they are armed militia in the pay of, and under the control of the Turkish Army, and not under the normal civil control to which you and others may be accustomed to in former lives.

But leaving aside the wider political angles, if you operate with the permission of and under the licence of the Republic, having paid their fee, can't see any licensing problems with the Republic or any other international bodies as long as you use the call sign they have asked you to use. If you use other call signs then you run the risk of breaking the terms of your licence. Sure you can understand that we can't have a free for all in the use of call signs. Use the one you have been allocated.

Where has OFCOM gone wrong? ...

Based on various UN resolutions, it's GB Public Policy to recognise the sole authority on the Island as being the Government of the Republic and its departments, and in accordance with those UN Resolutions to do nothing to recognise the Illegal Turkish Occupation Regime or any of its alleged bodies, so OFCOM should be made aware that they should act within GB Public Policy and have no official contact with "authorities" in the Occupied Areas of the type you describe in your post.



BillC, your post was most excellent too! :lol:

Perhaps you could send it to OFCOM so that they may learn something.

Well done mate.
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