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Postby Kikapu » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:03 pm

Viewpoint wrote:Where are those that go about promoting we are all Cypriots?? they have shown great unity, well done :wink:


VP,

Why do you make me come out and say all these things to you again. Why don't you quit, when you're ahead. But propaganda with you, has no limits.

I was the first to blast Pitsilos, not once, twice, but three times for his comments and you once, for your comments, which by the way, was the most disgusting , hateful and insensitive remarks I have ever heard on the forum.

Miltiades followed with condemning the comments made by Pitsilos, but you accused him of not siding with you with his proclaimed "brotherly love", which was totally unfair.

Now you claiming others did not come to your defense. Aside from me, which other TC condemned you for the comments you made, which was an insult to almost any women who were raped by the Turkish Soldiers in 1974. At times. you lack the compassion to your fellowman, I'm sorry to say, but willing to "milk" being victimised as much as you can, to try and score some political points, and for this, you lose your moral values and some of the support and sympathy given to you by others, when member of your family is attacked.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:31 pm

This thread was an opportunity to display the brotherly feelings that certain posters have claimed they have for each and every cypriot regardless. It is not a "milking" of anything quite the opposite I am exposing my other side to encourage unity and support that in moments of crisis have never been displayed just like in 1963 when TCs were living a nightmare in fear and the majority just kept quite as is the case here. Well this should teach eveyone a great lession in how it would be when faced with discrmination is a united Cyprus and the majority stay silent.....feel free to prove me wrong.
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Postby Kikapu » Sat Feb 24, 2007 2:35 pm

Viewpoint wrote:This thread was an opportunity to display the brotherly feelings that certain posters have claimed they have for each and every cypriot regardless. It is not a "milking" of anything quite the opposite I am exposing my other side to encourage unity and support that in moments of crisis have never been displayed just like in 1963 when TCs were living a nightmare in fear and the majority just kept quite as is the case here. Well this should teach eveyone a great lession in how it would be when faced with discrmination is a united Cyprus and the majority stay silent.....feel free to prove me wrong.


This I agree with VP.

It is the responsibility of all citizens to come to the aid of others, in time of need, because if we don't, because they are different, because of colour, language, race, religion and so on, then no one will come to our aid, when we need them.
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Postby pitsilos » Sat Feb 24, 2007 3:44 pm

Viewpoint wrote:This thread was an opportunity to display the brotherly feelings that certain posters have claimed they have for each and every cypriot regardless. It is not a "milking" of anything quite the opposite I am exposing my other side to encourage unity and support that in moments of crisis have never been displayed just like in 1963 when TCs were living a nightmare in fear and the majority just kept quite as is the case here. Well this should teach eveyone a great lession in how it would be when faced with discrmination is a united Cyprus and the majority stay silent.....feel free to prove me wrong.


what crisis are we exactly talking about here vips?

the one when 2 individuals were disagreeing, picking on you or whatever, or the one that insulted a whole nation?

yes here is unity, stop insulting and reminding people of your 15th century thinking. try and control your urges vips. your reminded everyone of the rapes in 74, and the lynchings in 96. well done.

and to be clear on the twins joke, the joke was on the stupidity of the man in thinking 2 men were needed to produced twins. this does not insult the woman or the twins. at the same token i can understand that the joke was lost in the translation, and for this i am sorry because i meant no disrespect to your wife or anyones wife. i hope the misunderstanding is clear now with everyone.

and ffs, stop equating everything to 63. you are indeed trying to propagandisize the whole thing.

you asked about sticking to the debate, but with you unless is a one way stream, you always pull the 63 crap from under your pillow. explain to me and to everyone how the hell you equate 2 grownups, rebel rousing with killings in 63?
or
are you saying i am a killer and i want to make a withdrawal.
or
are you saying in every society two grownups can't have a disagreement? or what? i would like you to explain to me the shooting in the casino a few days ago. was that a 63 incident between the tcs? i will call it a violent disagreement. should i go and say that we should never unified because you guys are animals? no i would not say it neither would i imply it.
or
are you saying we should stand united in condemning your disgusting comment?

you insulted a whole nation with your uncontrollable urge and it took you a long time to acknowledge it and further more you seem bend over heels to justify it by saying you were pushed. and then you wanted an unconditional apology from me while you seem fit to escuse your vulgar responce? an apology is not from the heart if you are trying to justify your actions.

the mind boggles with vips.

my apology to you was without excuses and ifs and buts, straight from the heart. i wanted to bury the whole thing, and i even extended my hand in friendship, but you seem to dismiss it with you snipe remarks on your next post to which i equally responed. it seems to me you thrive in playing the victim.
which it brings us to me apologising to you for making fun of you. iam sorry for picking on you vips.


ps. vips, i decided to give you, your 15 minutes of fame, and not push the matter any more by ignoring your comments, but vips, you got learn to quit while you are ahead. don't make the mistake, thinking that by me no responding to your silly comments that i have nothing more to say. again you reminded everyone that your apology is not really that sincere.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:29 pm

pitsilos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:This thread was an opportunity to display the brotherly feelings that certain posters have claimed they have for each and every cypriot regardless. It is not a "milking" of anything quite the opposite I am exposing my other side to encourage unity and support that in moments of crisis have never been displayed just like in 1963 when TCs were living a nightmare in fear and the majority just kept quite as is the case here. Well this should teach eveyone a great lession in how it would be when faced with discrmination is a united Cyprus and the majority stay silent.....feel free to prove me wrong.


what crisis are we exactly talking about here vips?

the one when 2 individuals were disagreeing, picking on you or whatever, or the one that insulted a whole nation?

yes here is unity, stop insulting and reminding people of your 15th century thinking. try and control your urges vips. your reminded everyone of the rapes in 74, and the lynchings in 96. well done.

and to be clear on the twins joke, the joke was on the stupidity of the man in thinking 2 men were needed to produced twins. this does not insult the woman or the twins. at the same token i can understand that the joke was lost in the translation, and for this i am sorry because i meant no disrespect to your wife or anyones wife. i hope the misunderstanding is clear now with everyone.

and ffs, stop equating everything to 63. you are indeed trying to propagandisize the whole thing.

you asked about sticking to the debate, but with you unless is a one way stream, you always pull the 63 crap from under your pillow. explain to me and to everyone how the hell you equate 2 grownups, rebel rousing with killings in 63?
or
are you saying i am a killer and i want to make a withdrawal.
or
are you saying in every society two grownups can't have a disagreement? or what? i would like you to explain to me the shooting in the casino a few days ago. was that a 63 incident between the tcs? i will call it a violent disagreement. should i go and say that we should never unified because you guys are animals? no i would not say it neither would i imply it.
or
are you saying we should stand united in condemning your disgusting comment?

you insulted a whole nation with your uncontrollable urge and it took you a long time to acknowledge it and further more you seem bend over heels to justify it by saying you were pushed. and then you wanted an unconditional apology from me while you seem fit to escuse your vulgar responce? an apology is not from the heart if you are trying to justify your actions.

the mind boggles with vips.

my apology to you was without excuses and ifs and buts, straight from the heart. i wanted to bury the whole thing, and i even extended my hand in friendship, but you seem to dismiss it with you snipe remarks on your next post to which i equally responed. it seems to me you thrive in playing the victim.
which it brings us to me apologising to you for making fun of you. iam sorry for picking on you vips.


ps. vips, i decided to give you, your 15 minutes of fame, and not push the matter any more by ignoring your comments, but vips, you got learn to quit while you are ahead. don't make the mistake, thinking that by me no responding to your silly comments that i have nothing more to say. again you reminded everyone that your apology is not really that sincere.


This is your opinion and I respect that as I do not want to get into a war of words with you yet again, I prefer to let people be the judge and my comments were understood by Kikapu and Im sure many others . You obviously have problems understanding the comparison and what the empahsis was on but who am I to try and clarify anything to you.
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Postby pitsilos » Sat Feb 24, 2007 5:45 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
pitsilos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:This thread was an opportunity to display the brotherly feelings that certain posters have claimed they have for each and every cypriot regardless. It is not a "milking" of anything quite the opposite I am exposing my other side to encourage unity and support that in moments of crisis have never been displayed just like in 1963 when TCs were living a nightmare in fear and the majority just kept quite as is the case here. Well this should teach eveyone a great lession in how it would be when faced with discrmination is a united Cyprus and the majority stay silent.....feel free to prove me wrong.


what crisis are we exactly talking about here vips?

the one when 2 individuals were disagreeing, picking on you or whatever, or the one that insulted a whole nation?

yes here is unity, stop insulting and reminding people of your 15th century thinking. try and control your urges vips. your reminded everyone of the rapes in 74, and the lynchings in 96. well done.

and to be clear on the twins joke, the joke was on the stupidity of the man in thinking 2 men were needed to produced twins. this does not insult the woman or the twins. at the same token i can understand that the joke was lost in the translation, and for this i am sorry because i meant no disrespect to your wife or anyones wife. i hope the misunderstanding is clear now with everyone.

and ffs, stop equating everything to 63. you are indeed trying to propagandisize the whole thing.

you asked about sticking to the debate, but with you unless is a one way stream, you always pull the 63 crap from under your pillow. explain to me and to everyone how the hell you equate 2 grownups, rebel rousing with killings in 63?
or
are you saying i am a killer and i want to make a withdrawal.
or
are you saying in every society two grownups can't have a disagreement? or what? i would like you to explain to me the shooting in the casino a few days ago. was that a 63 incident between the tcs? i will call it a violent disagreement. should i go and say that we should never unified because you guys are animals? no i would not say it neither would i imply it.
or
are you saying we should stand united in condemning your disgusting comment?

you insulted a whole nation with your uncontrollable urge and it took you a long time to acknowledge it and further more you seem bend over heels to justify it by saying you were pushed. and then you wanted an unconditional apology from me while you seem fit to escuse your vulgar responce? an apology is not from the heart if you are trying to justify your actions.

the mind boggles with vips.

my apology to you was without excuses and ifs and buts, straight from the heart. i wanted to bury the whole thing, and i even extended my hand in friendship, but you seem to dismiss it with you snipe remarks on your next post to which i equally responed. it seems to me you thrive in playing the victim.
which it brings us to me apologising to you for making fun of you. iam sorry for picking on you vips.


ps. vips, i decided to give you, your 15 minutes of fame, and not push the matter any more by ignoring your comments, but vips, you got learn to quit while you are ahead. don't make the mistake, thinking that by me no responding to your silly comments that i have nothing more to say. again you reminded everyone that your apology is not really that sincere.


This is your opinion and I respect that as I do not want to get into a war of words with you yet again, I prefer to let people be the judge and my comments were understood by Kikapu and Im sure many others . You obviously have problems understanding the comparison and what the empahsis was on but who am I to try and clarify anything to you.


your comment was understood by kikapu alright. he talks about citizens crying for help and you want a rally around you. thats what kikapu was agreeing
lets have another look at his reply.
It is the responsibility of all citizens to come to the aid of others, in time of need, because if we don't, because they are different, because of colour, language, race, religion and so on, then no one will come to our aid, when we need them.

he is talking at coming to the aid of citizens, while this whole topic is about you crying for help coz you abused citizens and looking for justification. and dare say you equating the spat between the 2 of us with the events of 63 which is upsurd. you can't equate a disagreement between 2 individuals with killings. i think kikapu cut you some slack and you are trying to capitalize on it.

and his post before that one he did say your comment was very disgusting and further more citizens have rallied in asking you to apologise to them for your comment. they had to wait for the apology, and then you are trying to justify it. how come then you didn't take your own advice and apologise to others when they rallied? what happened to the 63 example in this case?
but as usual is a one way stream with ain't it vips. but i respect yor opinion.

see the difference?

ps. kikapu gave you some good advice. you should have quit while you were ahead. you should have listen to him. but rather you looked at as a weakness and you are trying to capilize. if i was you i would have taken his advice, coz, we both gave you some slack here, and indirectly he was asking you to drop it. you need to read between lines vips.
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Postby Viewpoint » Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:03 pm

pitsilos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
pitsilos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:This thread was an opportunity to display the brotherly feelings that certain posters have claimed they have for each and every cypriot regardless. It is not a "milking" of anything quite the opposite I am exposing my other side to encourage unity and support that in moments of crisis have never been displayed just like in 1963 when TCs were living a nightmare in fear and the majority just kept quite as is the case here. Well this should teach eveyone a great lession in how it would be when faced with discrmination is a united Cyprus and the majority stay silent.....feel free to prove me wrong.


what crisis are we exactly talking about here vips?

the one when 2 individuals were disagreeing, picking on you or whatever, or the one that insulted a whole nation?

yes here is unity, stop insulting and reminding people of your 15th century thinking. try and control your urges vips. your reminded everyone of the rapes in 74, and the lynchings in 96. well done.

and to be clear on the twins joke, the joke was on the stupidity of the man in thinking 2 men were needed to produced twins. this does not insult the woman or the twins. at the same token i can understand that the joke was lost in the translation, and for this i am sorry because i meant no disrespect to your wife or anyones wife. i hope the misunderstanding is clear now with everyone.

and ffs, stop equating everything to 63. you are indeed trying to propagandisize the whole thing.

you asked about sticking to the debate, but with you unless is a one way stream, you always pull the 63 crap from under your pillow. explain to me and to everyone how the hell you equate 2 grownups, rebel rousing with killings in 63?
or
are you saying i am a killer and i want to make a withdrawal.
or
are you saying in every society two grownups can't have a disagreement? or what? i would like you to explain to me the shooting in the casino a few days ago. was that a 63 incident between the tcs? i will call it a violent disagreement. should i go and say that we should never unified because you guys are animals? no i would not say it neither would i imply it.
or
are you saying we should stand united in condemning your disgusting comment?

you insulted a whole nation with your uncontrollable urge and it took you a long time to acknowledge it and further more you seem bend over heels to justify it by saying you were pushed. and then you wanted an unconditional apology from me while you seem fit to escuse your vulgar responce? an apology is not from the heart if you are trying to justify your actions.

the mind boggles with vips.

my apology to you was without excuses and ifs and buts, straight from the heart. i wanted to bury the whole thing, and i even extended my hand in friendship, but you seem to dismiss it with you snipe remarks on your next post to which i equally responed. it seems to me you thrive in playing the victim.
which it brings us to me apologising to you for making fun of you. iam sorry for picking on you vips.


ps. vips, i decided to give you, your 15 minutes of fame, and not push the matter any more by ignoring your comments, but vips, you got learn to quit while you are ahead. don't make the mistake, thinking that by me no responding to your silly comments that i have nothing more to say. again you reminded everyone that your apology is not really that sincere.


This is your opinion and I respect that as I do not want to get into a war of words with you yet again, I prefer to let people be the judge and my comments were understood by Kikapu and Im sure many others . You obviously have problems understanding the comparison and what the empahsis was on but who am I to try and clarify anything to you.


your comment was understood by kikapu alright. he talks about citizens crying for help and you want a rally around you. thats what kikapu was agreeing
lets have another look at his reply.
It is the responsibility of all citizens to come to the aid of others, in time of need, because if we don't, because they are different, because of colour, language, race, religion and so on, then no one will come to our aid, when we need them.

he is talking at coming to the aid of citizens, while this whole topic is about you crying for help coz you abused citizens and looking for justification. and dare say you equating the spat between the 2 of us with the events of 63 which is upsurd. you can't equate a disagreement between 2 individuals with killings. i think kikapu cut you some slack and you are trying to capitalize on it.

and his post before that one he did say your comment was very disgusting and further more citizens have rallied in asking you to apologise to them for your comment. they had to wait for the apology, and then you are trying to justify it. how come then you didn't take your own advice and apologise to others when they rallied? what happened to the 63 example in this case?
but as usual is a one way stream with ain't it vips. but i respect yor opinion.

see the difference?

ps. kikapu gave you some good advice. you should have quit while you were ahead. you should have listen to him. but rather you looked at as a weakness and you are trying to capilize. if i was you i would have taken his advice, coz, we both gave you some slack here, and indirectly he was asking you to drop it. you need to read between lines vips.


It appears you are trying to pull me into a a war of words which I will try to avoid at all costs by not responding with full force. You are making many accusations about me yet again "cutting me some slack" who are you to do this? dont cut me any slack I dont want it especially not from you.

My intentions were clear I was trying to encourage people to show unity and speak up rather than stay silent like many did in our dark history and staying silent only allows the aggressors to get away with it. Showing unity and support is the same in all cases be it a dispute between 2 individuals or 2 communities.
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Postby pitsilos » Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:26 pm

Viewpoint wrote:
pitsilos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:
pitsilos wrote:
Viewpoint wrote:This thread was an opportunity to display the brotherly feelings that certain posters have claimed they have for each and every cypriot regardless. It is not a "milking" of anything quite the opposite I am exposing my other side to encourage unity and support that in moments of crisis have never been displayed just like in 1963 when TCs were living a nightmare in fear and the majority just kept quite as is the case here. Well this should teach eveyone a great lession in how it would be when faced with discrmination is a united Cyprus and the majority stay silent.....feel free to prove me wrong.


what crisis are we exactly talking about here vips?

the one when 2 individuals were disagreeing, picking on you or whatever, or the one that insulted a whole nation?

yes here is unity, stop insulting and reminding people of your 15th century thinking. try and control your urges vips. your reminded everyone of the rapes in 74, and the lynchings in 96. well done.

and to be clear on the twins joke, the joke was on the stupidity of the man in thinking 2 men were needed to produced twins. this does not insult the woman or the twins. at the same token i can understand that the joke was lost in the translation, and for this i am sorry because i meant no disrespect to your wife or anyones wife. i hope the misunderstanding is clear now with everyone.

and ffs, stop equating everything to 63. you are indeed trying to propagandisize the whole thing.

you asked about sticking to the debate, but with you unless is a one way stream, you always pull the 63 crap from under your pillow. explain to me and to everyone how the hell you equate 2 grownups, rebel rousing with killings in 63?
or
are you saying i am a killer and i want to make a withdrawal.
or
are you saying in every society two grownups can't have a disagreement? or what? i would like you to explain to me the shooting in the casino a few days ago. was that a 63 incident between the tcs? i will call it a violent disagreement. should i go and say that we should never unified because you guys are animals? no i would not say it neither would i imply it.
or
are you saying we should stand united in condemning your disgusting comment?

you insulted a whole nation with your uncontrollable urge and it took you a long time to acknowledge it and further more you seem bend over heels to justify it by saying you were pushed. and then you wanted an unconditional apology from me while you seem fit to escuse your vulgar responce? an apology is not from the heart if you are trying to justify your actions.

the mind boggles with vips.

my apology to you was without excuses and ifs and buts, straight from the heart. i wanted to bury the whole thing, and i even extended my hand in friendship, but you seem to dismiss it with you snipe remarks on your next post to which i equally responed. it seems to me you thrive in playing the victim.
which it brings us to me apologising to you for making fun of you. iam sorry for picking on you vips.


ps. vips, i decided to give you, your 15 minutes of fame, and not push the matter any more by ignoring your comments, but vips, you got learn to quit while you are ahead. don't make the mistake, thinking that by me no responding to your silly comments that i have nothing more to say. again you reminded everyone that your apology is not really that sincere.


This is your opinion and I respect that as I do not want to get into a war of words with you yet again, I prefer to let people be the judge and my comments were understood by Kikapu and Im sure many others . You obviously have problems understanding the comparison and what the empahsis was on but who am I to try and clarify anything to you.


your comment was understood by kikapu alright. he talks about citizens crying for help and you want a rally around you. thats what kikapu was agreeing
lets have another look at his reply.
It is the responsibility of all citizens to come to the aid of others, in time of need, because if we don't, because they are different, because of colour, language, race, religion and so on, then no one will come to our aid, when we need them.

he is talking at coming to the aid of citizens, while this whole topic is about you crying for help coz you abused citizens and looking for justification. and dare say you equating the spat between the 2 of us with the events of 63 which is upsurd. you can't equate a disagreement between 2 individuals with killings. i think kikapu cut you some slack and you are trying to capitalize on it.

and his post before that one he did say your comment was very disgusting and further more citizens have rallied in asking you to apologise to them for your comment. they had to wait for the apology, and then you are trying to justify it. how come then you didn't take your own advice and apologise to others when they rallied? what happened to the 63 example in this case?
but as usual is a one way stream with ain't it vips. but i respect yor opinion.

see the difference?

ps. kikapu gave you some good advice. you should have quit while you were ahead. you should have listen to him. but rather you looked at as a weakness and you are trying to capilize. if i was you i would have taken his advice, coz, we both gave you some slack here, and indirectly he was asking you to drop it. you need to read between lines vips.


It appears you are trying to pull me into a a war of words which I will try to avoid at all costs by not responding with full force. You are making many accusations about me yet again "cutting me some slack" who are you to do this? dont cut me any slack I dont want it especially not from you.

My intentions were clear I was trying to encourage people to show unity and speak up rather than stay silent like many did in our dark history and staying silent only allows the aggressors to get away with it. Showing unity and support is the same in all cases be it a dispute between 2 individuals or 2 communities.


responding with full force? like say another disgusting thing? is this what you mean :lol:

I am trying to put this behind us but i see you are as rependant as ever. you want to know about me? well i am the guy that made you drop your mask and exposed your self. vips never make the mistake of looking at a gift horse in the mouth, as the saying goes.
well they showed you unity by asking you to apologise to them to which you took a long time to do so.

but you seen bend as hell in equating 2 people with a disagreement with killings. the difference what happened in 63 and 74 people died. and this contitutes a crime against humanity. what happened between the 2 of us stayed between the 2 of us and no crime happened against anyone. you see the difference? you are trying to propagandasize the whole event to equating with killings. a disagreement is not a crime against humanity.
I find it upsurd to be labelled as criminal and a murderer because i disagreed with someone. i wonder about your state of mind sometimes. reality in the north is either removed or doesn't exist it seems

and while we are talking about aggressors, when can the 200,000 return back to their homes under the same country they were born, enjoying all the rights available to them. can we have some unity here as well? are we also gonna unite towards this cause or are we going to stay silent on this and allow the aggressors to get away with it again? you can't have it both ways. the 200,000 are longing for their ancestral lands back. i say lets all unite and kick the shit of the aggressors. what do you say to this?
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Postby miltiades » Sat Feb 24, 2007 6:52 pm

All it takes is a little understanding and appreciation of each others concerns and aspirations .I'm extremely happy about a year ago when I joined this forum ( have never subscribed to any such forum before ) I stated then that I'm a Cypriot above all else and posted my views on my disregard for majorities and minorities and my focous only on the Cypriot people. I have reacted angrily whenever anyone disputed the validity of our identity as Cypriots and have allowed my anger to manifest into personal insults on those members who persistently rejected our birth right to be what we are .Cypriots. Since then the Cypriot identity has been gaining momentum with such eminent devotees as Kikapu , Bir , Humanist , Natty , Mehmet , Cyperzokyli and many more , whose posts have been such a joy and inspiration to read. Those of us who believe in the brotherhood of our people are indeed the majority .
Our nation is none other than Cyprus , not North or South , anger rises when the VPs of this world constantly denigrate our identity and are promoting the permanent division of our island.

I have dissagreed with many on this forum on many subjects , people like Cyperzokily , even Kikapu at times but never once when it comes to CYPRUS , the land of The Cypriots.
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Postby fanourıo » Sat Feb 24, 2007 7:15 pm

wao! you guys can be lawyers... My brain hurts!
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