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[boulio]

excuse me agios dimitrios,but i thought thay you were saying that cyprus lost her credibility after the referandum?if she lost it why would the EU jeoperdize such a important summit as the eu-oic over a nameplate to protect the "black sheep"of the family?

it was not only junker,but the chancellor of austria and pm of ireland and finland.

[brother]

Jimmy what are you doing, telling the truth could give some gc heart attacks to learn that tassos is constantly manipulating and lying to them.

[boulio]

firstly im not GC,and "saint jimmy"is merely stating his opinion.

[Saint Jimmy]

tassos demands were of recognition even de-facto not de-jure and by october 3,he will have either that or a solution.

Not so sure about that, man... Apart from the actual date being real fishy (the whole 'screening' process thing...), the Protocol Turkey will have to sign may just be different from the one we know today...

Two possibilities which may be the actual essence of your debate with 'brother'...

[boulio]

actually no it is the ankara agreement of 1963 with the original members of the union just updated with the new members.

[Saint Jimmy]

excuse me agios dimitrios,but i thought thay you were saying that cyprus lost her credibility after the referandum?if she lost it why would the EU jeoperdize such a important summit as the eu-oic over a nameplate to protect the "black sheep"of the family?

it was not only junker,but the chancellor of austria and pm of ireland and finland.

Yes that's what I'm saying... I don't see how they could compromise on that nameplate thing without contradicting themselves...? They accepted that the RoC represents the entire island, so, what could they do?

Didn't know about the other guys...

[brother]

no, the turkish goverment made it VERY clear that the wording would be specific to ensure not any kind of defacto recognition of the south.

[Saint Jimmy]

actually no it is the ankara agreement of 1963 with the original members of the union just updated with the new members.

How can you be sure of that, though? The text of the Brussels conclusions are kinda, sorta 'yeah, but...' on that. Do you not accept the possibility that the actual text can be interpreted in Turkey's favor, that is, having to change the provisions of the Protocol?

[boulio]

come on agios dimitrios you cant have it both ways,that cyprus is in a political wilderness of isloation,and then that the eu had no choice but to cancel a high level summit for a nameplate. i think they may have been in the first few months after the referandum,but since the green line regs.and the offer of famagusta ports and clering of mind-fields and border openings and a wise descion not to cause to much trouble or veto turkeys ascesion(like you guys say tassos is a mad man and turk hater,cant put anything past him)i think cyprus is okay and has a cler consious from last years referandum,the future is a different story.

[boulio]

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